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55' speedo, 12v system, 6v gas gauge, help me

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by brandon11130, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. Aug 2, 2006
    brandon11130

    brandon11130 Master ghetto fabricator

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    alright i know very little about wiring so please be as desciptive as you can. the more MS paint diagrams the better.

    i have a 12v sending unit on the gas tank, the origonal 55 speedo with 6v gas gauge. should i run a 6v sending unit and just make the whole thing simpler. please help!!!!
     
  2. Aug 2, 2006
    etu

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    Go to this and you should find the answers.

    http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/FuelGauge.html

    In short, I don't think the fuel sending unit cares about the voltage, its just a variable resisitor. But the linked article should address your questions and more.
    Eddy
     
  3. Aug 2, 2006
    1963cj5

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    I am running on 12 volts on one of my early cjs..It was stock 6 volt..the only thing I had to change was the starter because the foot starter welded itself toghther from a bare wire..X2 on what etu said about the gas guage..
     
  4. Aug 2, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    The sender unit for gas guage is the same part for either 6 or 12 volts. For the guages if you have the silver face Willys script guage cluster there should be an little sqaure box mounted to the back of it, thats the instrument voltage regulator. While they were designed for operation on 6 volts rumour has it they will operate quite well on 12 volts as well so you should be safe. To check it there should be 12-14 volts on the input & ~5 volts on the output. If you test it dissconnected from the dash make sure you have use a clip lead to connect the guage cluster to a good ground or the regulator won't regulate therby releasing the smoke from the internal bitties & as we all know once the smoke escapes from them bitties don't work anymore :(.

    H.


    H.
     
  5. Aug 2, 2006
    w3srl

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    You can get a voltage drop resistor from any of the Jeep parts houses to use the 6v gauges in a 12v system. I got mine from JC Whitless, it worked just fine once it finally arrived from Bangalore, India or sumsuch place (~ 5 weeks). :rofl:
     
  6. Aug 2, 2006
    brandon11130

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    i dont get the whole lead/ regulator thing? whats a regulator? :)
     
  7. Aug 3, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    A regulator reduces the battery voltage to a level that the guages can safely operate at. On early speedo/guage clusters like were used in '55 the regulator is, as I stated. a small box mounted on the back of cluster. It has two termiinals, one that gets battery voltage from the ignition switch, the other feeds the regulated, i.e. lowered, voltage to the guages. The regulator also needs to have an electrical connection to ground, normally just being screwed to the speedo case does it as long as the speedo is properly mounted to the dash. If the ground connection is lost the regulator doesn't work & feeds the full 12 volts from the battery to the guages. The guages were designed to operate with a voltage of about five volts, feeding them 12 volts can destroy them very quickly. If you remove the speedo from the dash for testing then you need to restore the ground connection, usually most people use a clip lead which is simply a length of wire with an alligator clip on each end.

    As I stated earlier the regulators used on the early clusters were designed for an input voltage of around 6 volts but people have found that they will also work with a 12 volt input without burning up.

    Hope that helps,

    H.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2006
    brandon11130

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    alright i think i get it! thanks for the help
     
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