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Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by XXIIILIV, Mar 22, 2024.

  1. Mar 24, 2024
    H Tate

    H Tate Member

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    I will add this, the shims that came with the Rough Country lift are aluminum and should be replaced with steel shims like the ones from WFO. 1.75". I used 6 degrees shims in the front to correct the caster. But I really need to replace the rear shims from aluminum to steel.
    https://www.wfoconcepts.com/search.html#!sq=shims
     
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  2. Mar 24, 2024
    XXIIILIV

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    I must have been on the “nice” list. These are steel. I’m thinking about putting them in front to replace the 3 degree ones I had
     
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  3. Mar 24, 2024
    C-dubb

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    Roughly, how much did that set you back ?
     
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  4. Mar 24, 2024
    PeteL

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  5. Mar 24, 2024
    H Tate

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    There are several options but delivered it was $479. X spline, greaseable joints and the 10 spline yoke for the T-case.
    Just make sure to follow the directions on measuring for the needed length and be sure of the spline count for the T-case yoke.
     
  6. Mar 24, 2024
    H Tate

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    Interesting. Someone must have corrected the use of aluminum after I ordered mine. Were they 3 degrees?
     
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  7. Mar 24, 2024
    XXIIILIV

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    No, they are 8 degree
     
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  8. Mar 25, 2024
    XXIIILIV

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    Ok, shims are out, and I was wrong…they are aluminum. 1 have 2 1/2 degree at the diff and 3 degree at the transfer case. The driveshaft is a whopping 21 degrees. Haven’t driven it yet, but is that excessive?
     
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  9. Mar 25, 2024
    Lockman

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    Yep........ AFAIK.
     
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  10. Mar 25, 2024
    supertrooper

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    Its not so much what angle the actual drive shaft is at but what the angle is at the yokes and that the match each other and that the angle is within the ujoionts operating angle specs.

    Also, the shim at the crossmember might help the rear drive line angles but it will increase the angle at the front drive line but the front is always a compromise anyway.
     
  11. Mar 25, 2024
    XXIIILIV

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    Ill be taking it for a drive tomorrow and post the results
     
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  12. Mar 25, 2024
    supertrooper

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    Did you measure the angle at the yokes yet?
     
  13. Mar 25, 2024
    FinoCJ

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    My thoughts.....Based on the numbers he posted, the 3 degree transmission output going into a 21 degree driveshaft means an operating angle of 18 degrees or so at the yokes. The 3 and 2.5 degree angles at the trans and pinon respectively seem about right (3 degrees is pretty standard engine/drivetrain inclination, and 2.5 at pinon is close enough to equal)...it's the 21 degree angle of the driveshaft that pushes the operating angle so high, but it's a short wb jeep....I am sure some feel like when operating angle is 15 degrees or more, it's worth considering a double cardan joint (and adjust the rear pinon angle to match driveshaft angle), but I'd be inclined to just run it as is for awhile....
     
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  14. Mar 25, 2024
    supertrooper

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    Yeah, that makes sense. I agree to just run it for awhile too, the jeep is still sitting high on the new springs. When they settle in the drive shaft will be pretty close to 15 degrees
     
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    PeteL

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    Just a thought - have you had the shaft out and the splines apart? The two yokes MUST be synchronized.
     
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  16. Mar 25, 2024
    XXIIILIV

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    No, driveshaft has always stayed put.
     
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  17. Mar 25, 2024
    XXIIILIV

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    If it doesn’t work as it is now, the double cardan is the next step
     
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  18. Mar 26, 2024
    sterlclan

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    fwiw my 5 had 4 degrees at the case and almost 5 at the rear never gave me any issues
     
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  19. Mar 26, 2024
    XXIIILIV

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    Just got back…better but no cigar. It’s bearable, but now that I’m aware of it, i guess a new driveshaft is in order. Coincidentally enough, I’m going to the DMV Friday, and there’s a driveshaft shop in the area. Providence or chance ?
     
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  20. Mar 26, 2024
    ITLKSEZ

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    A picture would really help.
     
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