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Fuel Pump Delete

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by XXIIILIV, Jul 26, 2023.

  1. Jul 26, 2023
    XXIIILIV

    XXIIILIV Member

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    Having a tough time finding a block off plate for the 304. I hear several types will fit though. Which would be the best one that i could just ask for at my local parts store
     
  2. Jul 26, 2023
    colojeepguy

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    Big block Chevy.
     
  3. Jul 26, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    I fear the people at the store are as ignorant as I, what size engine would I say ?
     
  4. Jul 26, 2023
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  5. Jul 27, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    An update. Got a plate at oreillys. Just in time, this thing is leaking like crazy suddenly
     
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  6. Aug 5, 2023
    jeepdaddy2000

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    Always like to recommend a inertia kill switch with any electric fuel pump installation.
     
  7. Sep 17, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    So, I finally got off my keister and put the electric pump in. Got me to thinking though. If there is no return to the tank, what effect will it have on the pump
     
  8. Sep 17, 2023
    vtxtasy

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    The fuel will deadhead at your needle and seat and may flood your engine assuming you are carbureted. A return would be
    beneficial in many ways.
     
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  9. Sep 17, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    I thought that too, then i wondered how it would be any different from the mechanical one i replaced. Also, i do have a vapor return with the 3 port fuel filter. Would that suffice ?
     
  10. Sep 17, 2023
    AndyinTexas

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    It's been my experience that most external or inline pumps don't need a return unless you're running a pretty high performance unit. It's also been my experience that they don't live that long either.
    If running a carburetor, I personally favor a mechanical pump.
     
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  11. Sep 18, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    Well, for anyone who cares, i tested fuel pressure at the return on the tank and got a healthy 6 psi. So, to answer my own question; yes, vapor recover return seems to work well.
     
  12. Sep 18, 2023
    AndyinTexas

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    sounds like you have it under control
     
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  13. Sep 18, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    Yep…even a broken clock…
     
  14. Sep 20, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    Been looking at the inter webs. They say 4-4.5 psi for the 2100. Does that seem fair ?
     
  15. Sep 21, 2023
    Lane Meyer

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    This is a mostly useless reply but you may find something anecdotal in there that helps.

    My 2100 worked fine with the stock style mechanical fuel pump on my 304. When I swapped to the 360, I used the old pump from the 304 and an Edelbrock carb that came with the 360. The Edelbrock was flooding due to the pump pushing fuel past the needle/seat. I used a regulator to bring the pressure down to right around 5 psi and it has worked fine that way for the last 10 months. I did not check the psi of the mechanical pump. The regulator was a 6 psi out of the box and I installed the gauge at the same time.

    Mine is a deadhead setup with no return. I do intend to run a return but haven't gotten around to it. On a real hot day I will sometimes get minor flooding as a result of heat soak if I try to restart 5-10 minutes after shutting it down. Foot on the floor and it starts right up. That bothers me though, as I like my engines to start instantly. The 2100 setup on the 304 was deadhead also and it always started with barely a touch of the key.
     
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  16. Sep 21, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    Never met a piece of information that was useless. Now, with that said, i attached a cheap gauge to the line going into the carb. It reads 3psi. I restricted the return and could adjust the flow that way. I’m wondering if i put the regulator on the return, if that would be a good solution
     
  17. Sep 22, 2023
    Lane Meyer

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    There's a good video on YouTube discussing the regulator on the return line. I think the link below is it, if not, search his videos. I didn't have time to watch it to confirm. :)

     
  18. Sep 22, 2023
    XXIIILIV

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    That was good, now I know more than I understand. Gives me pause on what i have though. My “return” is actually the vapor return on the fuel filter, and the regulator i want to install is a deadhead type. Although the results would be the same in that fuel is returned to the tank, rather than cobble this together, I’m wondering if a setup like he has would be better
     
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