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Dana 18 twin stick TO single stick

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Ty, Mar 6, 2005.

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  1. Mar 6, 2005
    Ty

    Ty New Member

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    Hey guys,

    My th350/dana 18/OD combo wont work with the twin stick. My relocated OD shifter interfers with the levers, plus I don't really like having the dual stick. The model 18 is the early one with notched rods not with holes. To go back to the single stick will I need to change out the 2 push rods, or is there a stick and linkage set-up that uses the notched push rods?
    Thanks,
    Ty
     
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    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I believe the single sticks all used the shift rods with holes, not the notches....
    I just threw away 3 complete single stick assemblies, rods and all :oops:
    I never thought anybody would have a use for them.....
     
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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    a thousand lashes for Patrick :twisted:
    who throws away used Jeep parts ?????
     
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    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    :oops:
    Like I said, I couldn't imagine why anbody would want them......
     
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    Ty

    Ty New Member

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    ooooh man!! :shock: :shock: ANybody else have a set??? Or suggestions?
    Ty
     
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    181jeep

    181jeep Banned

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    I would remount the OD shifter. No self respecting ECJ owner with twin sticks would stoop to replacing them with a womanly single stick. Come on man, don't do it.

    JB
     
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    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Actually, honesty isn't Always the best policy. :shock: R)
     
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    greencj5

    greencj5 Member

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    I would try to make the twin stick set up work. IMO, the single stick I have is a pain. I have to lean way over to shift it and its hard to tell exactly what position your t-case is in. I am switching to the twin stick setup soon. My single stick set up will be available when I do.
     
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    oakesmi2

    oakesmi2 New Member

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    If you want trade I have all the parts you need but you will have to completly disassemble your transfercase or I would sell the parts to you for $30.
     
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    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Can you bend the OD shift lever some?
     
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    TIMBERWOLF427

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    Do you have to modify the floorboard when switching from a single stick to a dual stick??

    70 CJ5 V6
     
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    katdavar

    katdavar New Member

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    wish you lived closer I would happily trade you my singel stick for your double.
     
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    Ty

    Ty New Member

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    Before swapping to my TH350 I was MORE than satisfied with my "hard to reach" single short shifter. The twin stick rarely was used by those who I know have them. I saw one time when it was an advantage to use front lo. As for bending/re-routing the OD shifter, ya I could but it rides just perfect next to my lokar. I just don't need 4 sticks when I can go every where I want with 3.
    My question was simply do I need to swap out the rods to go to the "womanly single stick" :shock: ? Or can they be drilled and pinned maybe? I take it no one in this bunch has done this reverse swap....
    Ty
     
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    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    yes, the single stick has holes, the only twin-sticks use notches.
     
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    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Not sure if this is a typo or not, but you can't disengage the rear drive while keeping the front drive engaged.

    The big advantage of the twins - with the interlock pill removed - is 2-wheel drive low range, handy for backing up trailers, keeping speeds down on trails where 4wd isn't needed, cooling the engine by revving it higher (like waiting in line on a hot day), and easier steering if equipped with a front locker.
     
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    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    As far as drilling and pinning the rods, if the length is the same I'd say it probably wouldn't hurt to try. Thing is by the time you went to all that trouble why not just swap them. Don't you need a different front housing? After swapping that out might as well finish the job and change the rods.
     
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    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    yes and no. depends on your skill level of fabrication.
     
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    maxx

    maxx Banned

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    I have a spicer model 18 single stick front housing you can have for the shipping. It is clean, but stripped. You can probably get everything you need for the swap from Herm the overdrive guy ( < google his website, and call or email him).
    If you want the housing, let me know.
     
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    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    maxx is correct. You have to swap out the output bearing housing, the rods and the shifter. The shifter actualy bolts to the front housing. I had a single stick and hated it. But that's just me. Seems like you should be able to find someone who wants a dbl stick and just swap parts.
     
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    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

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    I dug through my parts and found these. The housing and linkage. I am not sure what else you would need. $20 plus shipping. I don't think it would be much to ship.

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