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ac fuel pump repair

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by greg 74, Apr 22, 2016.

  1. Apr 23, 2016
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Are you saying you removed both brass plugs and installed valves? You determined on the vacuum side the valves can only go one way? When you removed the plugs where do the holes go to? Did you happen to take pictures?
     
  2. Apr 23, 2016
    greg 74

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    removed = yes

    installed = no , just looked and analysed

    only one way = yes

    where = in the body , where there are the shafts and hooks for the diaphragm

    pictures = forgot my camera on my shop , so no pictures at this time
     
  3. Apr 23, 2016
    Glenn

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    Re: where. To me it seems that area on top of the diaphragm will fill up with oil. Maybe it won't hurt anything, but if so it wouldn't make sense to have an oil seal for the diaphragm shaft. Something just doesn't add up in my book.
     
  4. Apr 23, 2016
    greg 74

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    strange i know !!

    my theory or explanation for this valve :

    if oil is leaking by oil seal , it fills the body on the diaphragm side .

    the valve are there to push the leaking oil in the mecanical side of the body


    like that : it prevents overpressure the diaphragm , when the spring is fully compressed (a liquid is incompressible)
     
  5. Apr 23, 2016
    Glenn

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    I agree, the oil wouldn't be held back which is a good thing. I wonder if it is due to the design of the pump, because of the vacuum on the bottom. I'll look at my old Dodge 230 military pump, the vacuum is on the bottom.
     
  6. Apr 23, 2016
    scoutpilot

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    Double clamps, I hope? New tubing can bunch up as well. Does the tubing fit over the steel tightly by itself? If so, and no other leaks, it may be time to rebuild the vacuum wiper motors. They do go bad. There is not supposed to be any oil in either of the diaphragm housings. Forget about the pump needing to breathe. It doesn’t need to breathe. If there is oil in either chamber, the seal is no good.
     
  7. Apr 23, 2016
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    OK I checked two pumps- both had the valves installed in the pump body set up to draw air into the top side of the vacuum chamber when the diaphragm moves down into the cap.

    One draws air in from the body cavity, the other draws air in from the passage that's going to the lower cap.

    This makes no sense to me but that's the way they're set up.

    H.
     
  8. Apr 23, 2016
    Glenn

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    Well then, I'm with you Howard, that makes no sense to me at all. A vacuum has to have an exhaust to work.
     
  9. Apr 27, 2016
    greg 74

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    hallo

    my pump is on and it s running !!

    the valves are in and it s what i ve said = only one way to put them (so no more brass pin

    my wipers are running , not very fast but running !!!! my wipers are very old et no water on the windshield


    thank you !!!!!!


    another question :

    what is the right fuel level in glass cup on the top of the fuel pump ????
     
  10. Apr 27, 2016
    scoutpilot

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    As long as the fuel level in the bowl is even with or just slightly above the brass screen you are good. The bowl is an air dome and needs some air to maintain pressure.
     
  11. Apr 27, 2016
    Walt Couch

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    Glad you got her going Greg. Gotta love success stories.
     
  12. Apr 27, 2016
    greg 74

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    you re reading in my mind :D:D:D

    i was afraid of asking this question : perhaps , another trouble to solve :confused::confused::confused:, but no !!!


    nice and thank you (y)(y)
     
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  13. Apr 27, 2016
    greg 74

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    in 20 days , what is running , done or fixed ????

    - carbs and ignition : restored
    - disk brake (from vitara =rear + jimny = front ) + hydrovac = mg : finished
    - separated hand break for rear axle = lada niva and "chinese" products : definitely botl on
    - french legislation for rear flasher and brake light , i add a hazard switch : complete creation (fuses , wire , rear lamp)
    - finished revolver shackles rear and front : finalization
    - 30mm brace for my direction = no more bump steer : definitely botl on
    - electric fan with auto and manual mode : validated and all wires attached
    - alternator form suzuki 413 : definitely botl on



    almost ready for the french technical control to hit the road (y)(y)


    later , the big , big ,very big piece will the body :shock::whistle: but the chassis is ok ;)
     
  14. Apr 27, 2016
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    If ther
    If there ain't no pics it didn't happen :D

    H.
     
  15. Apr 28, 2016
    greg 74

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    what do you mean ?:n:
     
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    Walt Couch

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    What Howard was referring to is merely a statement of teasing.
     
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    m38willys

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    let me help interpret: We want to see pictures. Pictures. Pictures.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    :D
     
  19. Apr 29, 2016
    greg 74

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    ok

    is there a speciall place to do it :

    something like : " show your car "
     
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