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Steering box rebuild

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by olpete, Mar 25, 2014.

  1. Mar 25, 2014
    olpete

    olpete New Member

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    Slowly working on my 69 and the steering box has some play...rather then Saginaw I'd like to get it rebuilt but don't think it is something I could tackle my self. Can anyone point me to a rebuild source...I am located in SW Florida. Thanks
     
  2. Mar 25, 2014
    Danefraz

    Danefraz Well-Known Member 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    Lots here in prior posts, search "Ross", your fighting an uphill battle as there are a lot of pieces. And moving targets... Walcks has a lot of the pieces to help but I can't speak to the quality.


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  3. Mar 26, 2014
    jwmckenzie

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    It's not that hard to re-build. Check out this link.

    http://www.4wdmechanix.com/Rebuilding-the-Ross-TL-Steering-Gear.html

    That is where I started with my re-build for my V6 Ross Box. Had to buy a sector from DaBalla's and still need a better worm, but found all the rest of the parts a Walcks.

    When you take off the Pitman arm, be sure to mark the sector and arm so you can get it back together with the right "clocking".
     
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  4. Mar 26, 2014
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    :iagree:

    There's a number of potential "slop" sources in the system other than the Ross box itself that are undoubtedly contributing to your issue, your first step is to identify them. Do a search here on "Death Wobble", that will give you the whole story.

    Rebuilding these systems is not a great challenge, although less-than-perfect aftermarket repair parts can be be a bit of a challenge. That being said with some time & care invested the Ross box setup will work as well as any other steering setup.


    H.
     
  5. Mar 26, 2014
    olpete

    olpete New Member

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    My jeep (V6) was not running when towed to it's new home...box is removed from frame but doesn't feel smooth when turning input shaft...The drag link has a sloppy weld repair so I will be looking for one of those as well, there may be other problems in the steering linkage but have not gotten to them yet. Thought there may be a someone out there who specialized in rebuilding ross boxes...will check out the suggested link. Thanks
     
  6. Mar 26, 2014
    Steve's 70-5

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    The box on a V6 is the same as on a M38A1. I found a military rebuilt box for my jeep. I got the last one this guy had.
     
  7. Mar 26, 2014
    olpete

    olpete New Member

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    Good to Know...thanks
     
  8. Mar 26, 2014
    WorkInProgress

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    I just rebuilt the Ross box in my 4 cylinder cj2a and it was really easy. Only thing I didn't do myself was ream the bushings. I paid a machine shop for that 30 dollars. If I had to do it again I will buy the reamer and do it myself for about 50-60 dollars. So I didn't have to wait the 3 weeks he took when he quoted me next day. Also he reamed them separately so when the shaft went in it is a little hard because they aren't reamed straight with each other.
     
  9. Mar 26, 2014
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    You got off lucky- I took mine to a machine shop & told them I wanted .5 thou clearance, I got it back with 5 thou clearance :(.

    Luckily I knew someone who had some spare bushings & a brake hone- did it myself & it came out fine.

    H.
     
  10. Mar 27, 2014
    jwmckenzie

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    Yep, I used a brake hone as well, pushed the bushing in with my vice and a wood block and reamed with a brake hone. EasyPeasy
     
  11. Mar 27, 2014
    Johns1967CJ5

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    Me too. Took just enough off

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  12. Mar 28, 2014
    army grunt

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    I did mine it was a good fit after pressing in, I didnt need to ream it...
     
  13. Mar 28, 2014
    strvger

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  14. Mar 29, 2014
    olpete

    olpete New Member

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    I have been looking at the tight steer..thanks
     
  15. Mar 29, 2014
    strvger

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    i had an old scout that had a bit of a loose steering issue and also leaked the fluid out an old seal. i just got all the old fluid out and replaced it with synthetic marine lower unit lube. the stuff you pump out of a grease gun. pretty thick for sure. however, it no longer leaked out around the seal, and the steering tightened up enough for me not to have to go into the box. drove it like that for over 2 years including during the winter with temps in the -30's range. steered well and had no problems.
    yeah, i know that wasn't the best "fix" but it sure worked well enough for me.
     
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