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Dana 25 Bendix axle spindle bushing question

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by tomtom, May 8, 2013.

  1. May 8, 2013
    tomtom

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    Hi guys, I could sure use some help figuring this out. I have the front end apart on my 56 CJ5 to install a powr-lok and figured I'd clean things up, put in new trunnion bearings, wiper seals, etc while I was at it. I figured out that I have the bendix style axles, which I think are original to the jeep. Even still had the "bendix joint" tag on the back of the knuckles. The photo below shows my two spindles, and as you can see, one has a bushing with a thrust face and one does not. Based on what I've read, the non-threaded style bendix axle needs this thrust face, right? But that would mean a PO swapped in an older spindle without the thrust surface? Turns out both spindles have some issues so I am going to try and find some nicer ones.

    So, my question is, since I have bendix axles with no threads at the hub, I should put both sides back together with thrust style bushings, right? Any other thoughts? I knew almost nothing about the different style axles, etc about 4 hours ago, so there is a good chance I have this all jacked up!

    Thanks!

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  2. May 9, 2013
    duffer

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    Actually I believe all three axle joints that were used (Spicer, Bendix and Rzeppa) should have the flanged spindle bushing.
     
  3. May 9, 2013
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I've got the bendix axles with the original spindles & the bushings have the thrust faces .

    I'm not sure how big a difference it makes- the axles are essentially free floating with no reason that they'd get forced out against the spindle casting, and it doesn't look like you've got any wear associated with this setup. Still, I'd put in a new set with the shoulder.

    H.
     
  4. May 9, 2013
    WRMorrison

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  5. May 9, 2013
    tomtom

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    I believe this is correct for the early version where there are threads or a snap ring at the end of the axle (and the drive flange was then shimmed to set the correct clearance). I think the flange on the bushing showed up when those features were removed...even with bendix axles. I think thrust washer "B" is needed for bendix, but not the others. This is all based on my FSM and whatever I could make sense of in my searching so I am still not sure it is all correct.

    I really like the photo in the second post with the three different axle designs side by side. Wish I would have found it yesterday, it would have likely saved me an hour of internet searches figuring out the difference :)

    I agree Howard, unless someone chimes in and knows otherwise, I think each side is going to get a flanged bushing.

    Thanks for the help guys!
     
  6. May 10, 2013
    duffer

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    Not too sure about that. After your post, I dug out my FC SM (1003-R1, 1960), my only factory service manual showing all three of the axles. It very clearly shows flanged bushings for all. The difference in the flanged versus non-flanged bushing is solely related to if the axles are the early with threaded ends (non-flanged bushing) or the later non-threaded ends. The spicers were never available threaded, but I believe the Bendix and Rzeppa were available both with and without threaded ends.
     
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