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Manual steering pitman arms

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by Bob W, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Mar 4, 2013
    Bob W

    Bob W Member

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    I'm working on a CJ project and I need a pitman arm. The online catalogs indicate that Saginaw manual steering boxes are the same for CJs from 1972 to 1986 but the pitman arms are different for 1972-75 and 1976-86. Anyone know what the difference is between these pitman arms?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Mar 4, 2013
    tarry99

    tarry99 Member

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    That is a real loaded question...................Saginaw Manual verus power equals two different sizes.........most I see 4 sale on line are dropped ones for Power Steering............Nick Miller on this site has some Pittman arms for sale............you should send him a PM I'm sure he can help you!
     
  3. Mar 4, 2013
    zila

    zila I throw poop

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    All I know is that the power steering arms index differently that the manual ones..
     
  4. Mar 4, 2013
    tarry99

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    :)Your right they surely do because those dropped PS arms were mostly made for the later Jeeps and had a different positioned index key..............also there is an OD difference on the Sector shaft between the Manual and Power steering boxes .........
    two ways to get around that, you can take a angled Jewlers file and file in a new spline in that area............been done hundreds of times just allows the Pittman Arm now to be indexed anywhere or call Parts Mike in Northern California............they have a pretty good assortment of Pittman arms.............might get lucky or they will file you one!
     
  5. Mar 4, 2013
    autotech1984

    autotech1984 Member

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    Manual steering box shafts are smaller than power steering box shafts so the pitman arms are not interchangeable, however a manual pitman arm for a 72-75 will fit on a 76-86 CJ with manual steering but it is indexed differently because the steering box mounts at an angle to the frame rail versus parallel to the frame rail like the 72-75, the same is true for power steering pitman arms, if you wind up with a late cj pitman arm on a intermediate cj you won't be able to steer full left and you wouldn't be able to steer full right if you wind up with a intermediate cj pitman arm on a late cj, I found all this out when I did the P/S swap on my 72
     
  6. Mar 4, 2013
    zila

    zila I throw poop

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    Just for the record, I bought a drop pitman arm from Quadratech last year. They listed both manual and power as choices..

    Edit: Just looked at my Quadratech cat. They have a whole list of em, both power and non power. All years.. If you do not have a catalog let me know and what you have, I'll look at the part #
     
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  7. Mar 5, 2013
    Bob W

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    That is what I was looking for, Thanks everyone for your replies!
     
  8. Mar 5, 2013
    Mr. Gangrene Jeans

    Mr. Gangrene Jeans I See Voices&Hear Visions

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    Just to muddy the water, I got a steering pitman arm off a late 80's GM A-body (Skylark I think) with power steering. Small shaft with a pretty good drop that fit my manual Saginaw steering box perfectly. Had to take it to a dirt track shop where the small tie rod end hole (maybe metric) was reamed out to the standard Jeep size. Looks like it was made for my DJ-5A, couldn't ask for a better steering angle. Will take a picture after getting the foot of snow off.
     
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