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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by boiler, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. Apr 6, 2012
    boiler

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    I put my f134 together put it in the jeep It's in timed ' the valves are set' I have spark, I have fuel every thing checks out rite but it just won't start. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :shock:
     
  2. Apr 6, 2012
    rusty

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    Any way you got it 180 out when you put the dizzy in?
     
  3. Apr 6, 2012
    boiler

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    No checked it . What about a ground from the block to the frame could that be the problem? the old 60's Malibu Did that
     
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    PeteL

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    If you have spark, you have a ground, right? Did you check spark at the plug gap - cranking without firing may have fouled the plugs. Is timing right-on?
     
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    boiler

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    pulled the plug and got spark from each one timeing is right on
     
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    homersdog

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    check for water in the fuel? compression test? Is the spark Blue?
     
  7. Apr 6, 2012
    boiler

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    fuel is fresh put in this morning and even added dry gas. presser test block spark is blue. I have done everything I can think of been doing this a long time can not figure it out need fresh mines So keep thing and thank for the help
     
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    homersdog

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    I would go back timing then, because if the spark is there and the fuel is there you should at least get something, even if it won't stay running.

    Don't suppose it could be a vacuum leak somewhere?
     
  9. Apr 6, 2012
    boiler

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    Have vacuum gage on it pulls good vacuum with gas pedal up drop when you press the peddle down . Got to go to bed now have to go to work in 2 hours will check in tomorrow. So keep them coming I am at the end of my rope with this
     
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    when you put the cam in the 2 dots aligned, right? don't burn up your starter... static set your ignition timing again. make sure your rotor is pointing to the correct ignition wire and that wire goes to the right cylinder. take off the valve covers and physically look to make sure your valve timing and ignition timing are where they need to be. verify all this. when you are sure it is correct pour an ounce of gas down the carb, make sure you you have a fire extinguisher handy and start it up. if all those things are correct it will run, if only for a couple minutes.
     
  11. Apr 6, 2012
    1960willyscj5

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    How did you time it?

    As mentioned, it could be 180ยบ out of time.

    Which is what it sounds like.

    What are you using for ignition? Points or Pertronix?

    When I installed my pertronix unit, with out changing anything from when it had points in, that my timing switched from the number 1 cylinder to number 3 or 4 I forget which.:D

    I don't worry about which because once timed it runs great!hellokitty jeep tossjeep tossjeep toss
     
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    PeteL

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    If gas and spark are present, then ditto on the cam, valve timing etc. etc. Compression is necessary - and at the right time.
     
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    chuck123wapati

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    any signs ?? backfire, sputter, popping??? or just nothing.
     
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    ExpressEN1

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    OK, you put fresh gas in the tank. Is the gas making it to the intake when you work the throttle linkage? You say you have spark and the timing is correct. Not many things left. Carb not pumping fuel or carb is just dumping too much fuel.
     
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    cookieman

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    What to you mean by timed"valve set"? Can you see the the rocker arms moving as you crank the motor?
     
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    Jmoto

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    Couldn't get mine to start. After 30 minutes of head scratching someone suggested to check the firing order. Of course I had that right. Wrong. I had 2 and 3 switched. Fired right up after that.
     
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    boiler

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    Using points checked valves going up and down put presser in each cylinder turned it by hand to make sure that each valve was opening firring order is correct Timing gear set right No backfire ,sputter, popping nothing. just at a loss going to replace plugs whit hotter fresh ones even tho the ones I have are new
    Thanks a lot guys If you have any more Ideas let me know . I will let you know when I get It started
     
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    PeteL

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    Heat range of the plug is only important to a running engine.

    Try a quick shot of starting fluid into the carb while someone cranks the engine...
     
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    boiler

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    Ok lined up the plugs on the block wires on cranked the engine all plugs fired in order. Put gage on #1 cylinder pulg on block cranked the engine #1 plug fired when gage hit about 90 lb. Maybe to much fuel don't know still trying
     
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    rusty

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    Had this problem many years ago, turned out to be a bad condensor .
     
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