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Rochester Rebuild

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by RedWing, Aug 10, 2007.

  1. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    I disasembled my carb tonight and got everything cleaned real good. I'm planning on rebuilding tommorrow. The instructions in my rebuild kit show a ball retainer for the aluminum ball that goes under the plunger pump. I didnt see one when I took mine apart. The manual doesnt appear to list one either.

    Is this a missing part or should I just drop the small aluminium ball in place followed by the spring then the plunger?
     
  2. lj98

    lj98 New Member

    The spring that goes under acclerator holds that ball in.There is an aluminum retainer that looks like a T for the other ball by the squirters.
     
  3. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    Thanks for the info. Is there a washer or anything that goes under the spring? I didnt notice one when I took it apart, but the instructions that came with the NAPA rebuild kit shows one. (i think, the illustration is small)
     
  4. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Like lj98 said the spring holds the ball in place, there's no washer. There should be a replacement in your rebuild kit if you got it from NAPA.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2007
  5. Kaiserjeeps

    Kaiserjeeps New Member

    If you got a marine bowl gasket in the rebuild kit, use it. It will be the one that covers the entire float bowl leaving only a cut out for the float needle and seat assy. They work better off-road with that gasket.
     
  6. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    Thanks for all the tips. I got the carb put back together and installed yesterday and the jeep started right up. The problem i'm having is it seems to run very rich. The only way i can keep is running is to back the idle mixture screws out about 3 turns. This is the problem I was having before I rebuilt the carb. What should I try next?
     
  7. 66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

    you need a vacuum gauge to adjust the carb (an exhaust sniffer is better, but alot more $$$$). hook the gauge to a port on the manifold, start with the mixture screws out 1 1/4 turns from bottom. Adjust the mixture screws until you get the most vacuum you can get (somewhere between 16-20 inches). per the factory manual.
     
  8. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    The problem I'm having is I cant keep it ideling with the screws set in that far. To get it to idle they are out about three turns. I'll try it again with the vacuum gauge attached.
     
  9. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    What's your timing?
     
  10. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    I just recheck the timing and it was a bit retarded. I set it to 5 degrees BTDC.

    Other than running rich, it worked fine before the carb rebuild. I'm also wondering about plug wires, coil etc after reading many posts. I just ordered a new set of wires today. How can you test the coil?
     
  11. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    I was reading some other post from the search section. I am wondering if my float adjustment might be off. My question is, if the carb is running rich could the float have some thing to do with that and if so in which direction should it be readjusted? Less float drop or more?
     
  12. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Did you not reset your float when you rebuilt it?

    A vacuum leak could cause you to back the screws out farther than you think necessary.

    What's the manifold vacuum at idle? Is the needle smooth or is it swinging, jumping?
     
  13. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    I did reset the float levels during the rebuild, but I thought maybe I had gottten them wrong. My manifold preasue at idle is 17 but the needle does moves rapidly back and forth either side of 17. I have sprayed carb cleaner all around the carb and the manifold and I don't get any change in RPM. The only spot that is hard to reach and spray at is the firewall side of the manifold.

    I have been wondering about a vacuum leak. Is changing the intake manifold gasket difficult?
     
  14. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    If there's a leak at the back of the manifold it shouldn't affect the air mixture.

    Bouncing back and forth around 17"? How far? An inch or more? Mine bounces around 18"-19"-20", I don't worry about that. If it's more than an inch I'd be concerned.

    Not hard to change the gasket, intake is easy to remove, can be messy though with coolant and oil.

    17" of Hg is good though. Doesn't sound like a vacuum leak, if you spray carb cleaner has the vacuum dipped?
     
  15. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    It bounces rapidly 15" to 18" I didnt try spraying the carb cleaner with the vacuum guage connected. I'll try that tonight. Sparky, should I leave the float alone and trust that I got it right the first time?
     
  16. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Leave it be. It wouldn't manifest itself in this fashion.

    If you start having other problems with drivability then we'll look at it.
     
  17. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    I got the vacuum guage out again tonight and at idle with the screws out around three turns I get 17 to 19 inches. I adjusted the mixture screws and the engine smoothed out when the vacuum got near 18 to 19.

    The problem now is when driving. It accelerates smoothly, but is jerky or intermittent at speed when you hold the throtle steady. Any ideas?
     
  18. w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

    Just a thought; if you have a manual choke, try driving it at speed until it starts to balk, then pull the choke part-way out. This will richen the carb. If the engine starts to smooth out any, you are likely to be having a fuel starvation problem. A float that is set too low, a blocked fuel filter or crud in the tank are likely culprits.
     
  19. RedWing

    RedWing Member

    Thanks, I give that a try. The tank, fuel lines and filter are all brand new. The carb was very clean when I rebuilt it. Is the float drop to low or the initial (inverted) measurement?