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Help Me Find The Correct Pitman Arm.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Buildflycrash, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    If you’re sitting around on a rainy Sunday- I’ve bought and returned 3 different pitman arms from Amazon in the last couple weeks. First one had built in TRE I didn’t need. Next didn’t have the gaps in the splines. Now I have one that fits but the spline gaps are 45* off.

    So I’m looking for a pitman arm with the gap’s aligned straight to the arm and with a smallish drop (maybe 2-3”).

    Here’s the gear I’m using. Cardone 27-6529 mid 70s Chevy car.

    Call me lazy but I know most of y’all are smarter than me. And I’m working on the rear spring hangers.
     
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  2. timsresort

    timsresort Active Member 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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  3. Rich M.

    Rich M. Shoe salesman 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Eye to eye length?
     
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  4. Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Currently ( the one I’m returning) is 5.25”
    The correct one is… IDK!?! That’s why I’m asking you.
     
  5. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Straight or bent? Whats the maximum overall length before it contacts anything? More importantly, what’s the minimum eye-to-eye length you need to sweep completely and move the knuckles lock-to-lock?

    If you find the perfect arm but the keyway is in the wrong spot, it might be easiest/feasible to just file the offending teeth away.
     
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  6. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Pitman arms annoy me.
    You need to know the diameter and spline count on the box. The center to center horizontally and vertically.
    Then you guesstimate what would have the right arm and still throw it back in the pond.
     
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  7. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    If the wide teeth in the pitman arm throw of the clocking off, buy a triangular shaped file such as the item 4229A13 ( triangular files | McMaster-Carr ). Use the file to cut a groove into the wide teeth on the pitman arm duplicating the narrow teeth. You can then clock the pitman arm to a position you want or need. I have done this many times.
     
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  8. vtxtasy

    vtxtasy oldbee 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    The pitman arm must also have the correct diameter and taper to fit the TRE. The drop you are looking for may make
    this difficult to find. Have you considered doing a tie rod flip? This is an arm I am looking at but has a 3/4" drop. It also
    lists the specs. The small hole may be too small and be taken care of with a reamer which would also be used in the tie rod flip.
    https://www.southwestspeed.com/?sec=view_part&id=921

    Skyjacker has one for a 2" lift but does not list the length.
    https://www.jegs.com/i/Skyjacker/825/JA552/10002/-1
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2023
  9. boopiejones

    boopiejones I can’t drive 55

    Having an arm that’s the correct length, drop and taper is 99% of the way there. Personally i would keep that arm and file splines into the offending spline gaps.
     
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  10. Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Y’all greatly overestimate my patience.

    Seems I can easily measure the needed length before I order the next one. Im done with the current frame boxing so doing that now.
     
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  11. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Lacking patience there is always the good o'l saws-all or jig saw. But what I do with stuff like this that takes a lot of patience is I take it to work and nibble away at it whenever the PC is spinning or I'm sitting on the porcelain.
     
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  12. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Filing is a lot quicker than waiting for the wrong part to show up a few times
     
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  13. Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    True. But since I don’t have the engine, transmission even in the Jeep I not in a huge hurry.
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2023
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  14. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    If you can't file those 4 notches in 10 minutes or less, you are taking way to long going to get your next cold beer.
     
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  15. Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Joe is correct. Jigsaw clamped upside down in vice.

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    Greg and the rest of y’all are also correct.

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    The jigsaw definitely helped get things started. The file took only minutes.

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    Lock to lock with very little left in the box.
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2023
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  16. vtxtasy

    vtxtasy oldbee 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Glad that worked.(y) What part number did you end up using?
     
  17. Ol Fogie

    Ol Fogie 74 cj5 304, 1943 mb

    x2, I have done this as well, not a big job either. works well.
     
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  18. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I don't mean to be a party pooper. :ninja:

    Pitman arm selection should not take place until the chassis is fully weighted.
    Engine, cooling system, winch, etc... all need to be in place in order to determine the proper amount of drop needed for bump steer correction.
    When the front suspension is fully loaded your shackle reversal setup will move the axle rearward, likley making the current "barley long enough" pitman arm too short. This problem will be exaggerated when the suspension is maxed out on the trail somewhere, limiting your turning capability.
    I wouldn't count on that current pitman arm being your forever pitman arm.
     
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  19. Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor


    Thanks Kyle,
    Never considered the flex would change the amount of travel. That's why I'm here. Learning new stuff every day.
    I put it on with a breaker bar - anyone have a pitman arm puller I can borrow?
     
  20. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    O o o
    O'Reilly
    Auto parts
    Loaner tool 58025 or 58028 (the bigger one) $15 deposit
     
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