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Overheating

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by shaun, Aug 19, 2022.

  1. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Regarding oil pressure, what is it when you start the engine after sitting, in essence a cold start?
     
  2. shaun

    shaun Member

    I tested the t-stat before install and it’s operates, the fluid was filled to top
     
  3. shaun

    shaun Member

    Oil pressure is about 6-10 at cold start it’s low but bumps up to 6 and when high idle kicks off it’s about 8-10
     
  4. shaun

    shaun Member

    I could replace the grille with a mid 70s which would be not as deep and put that radiator that goes with that grille, then I can put the fan as a puller style right? I can switch the fan blades around.
     
  5. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Unless you have a coolant recovery system you should leave around an inch or so room for expansion in the radiator. Being full and then getting hot the coolant will definitely go out the overflow.
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2022
  6. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I would install mechanical temperature and oil pressure gauges to be sure of reliable readings. It seems to me that engine would be noisy as could be with oil pressure that low.
     
  7. shaun

    shaun Member

    Yes I talked to my buddy here and I think we are going o do that as well as I may look at the water pump as well, seems like it takes awhile to get to 180, have to get RPMs up a bit to raise the temp, then the fan comes on and t-stat opens. What’s your thoughts on Changing the A1 style grille to cj5 grille? I could swap radiators and put the puller fan on instead of pusher?
     
  8. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I certainly agree with having a puller fan so if a grill change is what it takes then I'd say do it. And checking the water pump is certainly worth the effort. Also unless you are using a coolant recovery system definitely leave room in your radiator for coolant expansion.
     
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  9. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Before I did anything else I'd spent $10 on an infra-red remote thermometer, and double check if it is truly overheating. Useful for many other things too
     
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  10. shaun

    shaun Member

    I filled it abou 1” above the coils. I looked in it today and it has plenty of coolant in it. Has room for expansion. I need to look for a CJ5 grille. I think that’s a way to go to Change the fan location. Or cut the cowl out of my A1 and mount the radiator to the skin of the grille.
     
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  11. scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    You can't change the blades. Just wire the fans backwards.
     
  12. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    X2 what Scott said.

    They'll run the same either way you mount them. Can you reverse the polarity?
     
  13. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Not according to Hayden who is an electric fan manufacture. See section 5 of the attached installation instructions.

    untitled (haydenauto.com)
     
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  14. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Read it all. It says to reverse the wiring too.

    The fans may have a front and back, but flipping them cannot change blade orientation. Try it.
     
  15. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    Double-check your fan rotation. With the fan “on”, put a piece of paper up to the grill. Does it suck toward the grill, or blow away from it? Either way, pusher fans are very inefficient.
    Also, your oil pressure is too low. There is a cap on the oil filter housing that has a spring under it that controls a by-pass plunger. If that plunger is sticking, or doesn’t seat, your oil pressure will be too low. The plunger must be seated (closed) until the oil pressure overpowers the spring, regulating the pressure to around a max of 50 or 60 psi.
    -Donny