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Curious Question Regarding Bolts And Washers

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mickeykelley, May 4, 2019.

  1. mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

    Does it really matter whether the star nut vs the bolt head goes on the engine side vs bell housing side. I know the top 2 bolts have to go fron the bell housing to the engine since the bolts won't start from engine side due to lack of room. So I've done all the rest that way except one down by the tranny shield, it's easier to reverse it instead of fighting the shield. Which got me thinking on all the lower ones might actually be better having the bolt head coming from the front in the event you caught a rock or debris popping up and catching the nut/treads.
     
  2. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Personal opinion I can't see how it would matter. I've probably done some of mine that way, don't remember without looking. The strength of the fasteners is more critical.
     
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  3. mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

    Just a curious thing.
     
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  4. Rick Whitson

    Rick Whitson Detroit Area 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    As an Ironworker we were taught that the washer goes on the side you tighten from. If you have to tighten from the head side the washer goes under the head. Never impact a lock washer, they will just spin out. Some applications required that we put a washer on both sides, the head and the nut side, like Railroad bridges, with A490 high strength structural bolts. If you put a washer on both sides you have to hold the head while you tightened the nut, you can't just hit it up, it will just spin, it takes two guys to impact structural bolts with two washers. Just talking from experience, I have had, in my job. Good luck.
     
  5. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    I doubt that it makes any real differnce which way the bolt goes in, unless you can't get to it otherwise. If a couple bolts only fit from one direction, I usually install the rest the same way just because it looks more uniform. Sometimes I install fastenes a certain fasteners to protect them from damage such as dragging over rocks. If the threads are more vulnerable one way, I try to install them to favor the threads.
    -Donny
     
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  6. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    This is interesting. I assume this is talking about a lock washer?
     
  7. mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

    That's my normal obsessive behavior but I thought I was the only one out there. I don't really remember which way they were when I took them off, but as I began putting it all back together AGAIN, I kind of remember one being a pain to get started with the shield in the way (bottom one on far passenger side) so I was going to flip it, then started to think about rocks catching the thread on the others and it 'looked' off with one being reversed.
     
  8. Rick Whitson

    Rick Whitson Detroit Area 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Flat washers too Glenn, the washer acts as a bearing when impacting bolts on a building. That is what they teach in apprentice school.
     
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  9. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Yeah, I totally get it with a flat washer, and have actually used that theory not realizing it's standard practice. I've almost always used lock washers on the nut side though, even if not tightening from that side. Of course I've never done structural steel either.