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Rear Frame Crossmember M38a/ Cj5

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by alpina72, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. alpina72

    alpina72 Member

    Hi all, haven't been here for a while.
    Life got in the way and my Jeep had to wait on the sidelines for a bit.
    Anyway...
    Is this crossmember at the link a direct fit up to a 70 CJ5?
    Seems to be far superior than the Omix ones everyone is selling.
    Thanks!

    M38A1 rear cross member kit very correct G758 US Made
     
    alpina72, Sep 28, 2018
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  2. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Same thing '55-'71 but be aware that the M38A1 part is different from the CJ5 part- different width, different hole positions & no license plate slots.

    They don't seem to have the inner piece, if the outer is shot than most likely the inner is as well, Classic sells them as a package.

    1951-1971 Jeep CJ5, M38A1
     
    Howard Eisenhauer, Sep 28, 2018
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  3. alpina72

    alpina72 Member

    Thanks Howard!!
    That's what I was looking for, Google kept sending me to Omix parts which I try to avoid.
    They seem to have the hat channel for my tub also.
    Thanks again.
     
    alpina72, Sep 28, 2018
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  4. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    I think the rear crossmember that Quarterton sells is made by Midwest Military up in Wisconsin. Carefully compare the stamped holes and spacing with what your CJ5 has. I think they will look similar at a glance, but many holes will not be identical. The M38a-1 did not use a drawbar/hitch, so a lot of holes are not the same. Little details like the two small holes on either side of the PTO hole are not there on the A-1 version. That crossmember does have a double layer thickness in the area between the frame rails, so that is good.
    -Donny
     
    Keys5a, Sep 28, 2018
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  5. alpina72

    alpina72 Member

    I was wondering about the PTO since I plan on putting one on mine.
     
    alpina72, Sep 28, 2018
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  6. alpina72

    alpina72 Member

    Well, UPS just dropped off the one from Classic Enterprises.
    All I can say is that I am less then impressed.
    There are no holes for the PTO, license plate or body mounts.
    The holes in the stiffener are about 1/4" off from the holes in crossmember.
    And I will have to beat it onto the frame.
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2018
    alpina72, Oct 5, 2018
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  7. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Mmm. I'd call them.
     
    timgr, Oct 5, 2018
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  8. alpina72

    alpina72 Member

    I did just give them a call.
    They are definetly some stand up folks and made it right.
    Apparently they were getting complaints that there were to many holes so they took them out and didn't update the pictures on their website.
    As for the hole misalignment it's workable and after looking closer at it, it looks to be a simple operator error when it was formed.

    But as I said they made it right, I'm happy and will be ordering from them in the future.
     
    alpina72, Oct 5, 2018
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  9. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    Thats why I was suggesting the crossmember you originally linked (sold by Quarterton) made by Midwest. The Classic pieces had holes that didn't line up with anything, maybe only two that fit.
    The Midwest crossmember is a pretty nice piece, but no one makes one that correctly fits the 1960s CJs hole for hole.
    -Donny
     
    Keys5a, Oct 5, 2018
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