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T-90 bent shifter?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Deaner70, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. Deaner70

    Deaner70 Member

    bought a rolling chassis but the seller had no idea what year it is. I think its a 70-71 but not sure. It has a 4 banger, and what I would assume a T-90 BUT the top of the shift lever has a small "bend or Kink" in it like the t-86 usually has (at least all I have ever been around) the jeep has a single T-case shifter with bracket on the mounting bolt, a flanged, offset 44 rear, etc. Any thoughts? The engine is locked up, but the frame is excellent shape. He had started a project and then lost interest and sold it.

    So, does anyone have a good guess on tranny? I have not went looking for casting numbers yet

    Any guess on the year with the things I have described? The rear end makes me think 70-71. My old racer had a flanged, offset 44 and it was a 70

    Thanks, Larry
     
  2. timgr

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    AFAIK the F134 got the T-90 up to the end of domestic production in 1971. The only alternative is the T-98 four-speed.
     
  3. Deaner70

    Deaner70 Member

    Well I went to looking and removing grime and found the casting numbers T90A-1. Still never remember seeing a handle like this on one. Maybe bent like that to clear a bench seat? Not sure
    IMG_7470.JPG IMG_7470.JPG IMG_7473.JPG IMG_7470.JPG IMG_7473.JPG IMG_7474.JPG
     
  4. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    PO mod is possible. Bending a shift stalk can be done easily with a torch.

    Looks very ergonomical to me! :)

    You are correct about the rear axle. Changed in mid 1970. If you got the chassis cheap, that axle makes it a bargain. Only downside with the flanged 44 is Jeep stopped offering the PowerLock, so it's a TracLock if a LSD.

    Plenty of useful parts there.
     
  5. 1967 CJ5A

    1967 CJ5A Mike 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    That looks just like the T90C in my '67.
     
  6. timgr

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  7. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    I seem to recall the T86 had a different bend, closer to the top.
     
  8. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    Based on the flanged 44 and what looks like a drawbar set-up for a rear gas tank (also some tank bracket mount holes on top of rear frame right in front of rear cross-member), would also support a late 70 or 71.
     
  9. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I would assume the serial number would be stamped on the frame as the others are.
     
  10. Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I think you may find water in transmission . being its been out side in weather . maybe why engine is locked too. a frame with all that I see there . would be worth bring home if the price was right . and you could use some of parts . and sell the rest
     
  11. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    Yep...also the lack of the diagonal frame braces where the rear tank mounts.
    I agree with the post about water in the trans, but the real axle and rear drawbar are very desirable even if the trans us a bucket of rust.
     
  12. jglad

    jglad Village Idiot

    I had a 1971 with a 134 and a T90 that had that same shifter
     
  13. 1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

    Another indicator of later year Early CJ is the single lever TC. They only did that in the '70 and '71, didn't they?
     
  14. 1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

    Diagonal frame member being missing could be because there was a trencher or welldigger mounted in the back. How heavy duty are the rear springs?
     
  15. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    All V6 CJ's had the single lever tcase, but I'm not sure about the 4 banger.
    The diagonal frame braces were deleted with the start of the rear gas tank.