Problems with my lock right

Hi guys!

I'm disappointed with the rear lock right when I drive the jeep by road. Almost whenever I accelerate the jeep it sight sway to the left and when i take off the gas quickly the car sight sway to the right.

This effect makes the car really unsafe to drive when I drive it in narrow roads with curves that predominate in my zone.

Can I do something to mitigate this effect? Is my locker wrong installed? Can I find any other kind of locker that doesn't interfere in the driving by road? If I install a powetrax will I feel a better driving by road? Is the powertrax a real solution to the rear backlash? How much is the price?

All solutions, ideas and commentaries are welcome.

thanks Xavier

 

I had a detroit locker that would do the same. Finally figured it out. Both tires had to have equal presure, if one was lower than the other, it would pull or shift to that side when you accelerated and to the other side when you let off gas.

 

About your only other option to avoid the locker engagement sway would be to put a selectable in like an ARB or OX.

 

Initially I thought the problem will be the tire pressure, but after check it and raise the pressure the problem still continues. Some times accel/deccel. correctly but most of the times the car makes backlash.

I remember that when I installed the locker and tried to put the pinion shaft it entered strong so I think the thrust washers are too thick.... but the tolerance between the drivers is the correct as indicate the builder. Can come from here the problem?

 

In all my other YJ's and L.R. Defenders I have had always I have used ARB lockers and always OK.
I only have found the Richmond lockers for the Dana 44 19 splines, where can I find a OX or an ARB for this diff. ?

 

I'm not real sure I underestand what the exact symptoms are and I don't understand what you mean by backlash in this context, but it sounds like it's just normal locker operation. AS stated above, verify the tire pressure. But with a locker, when you ge on the gas the jeep will pull to the right, and when you get off the gas, the pulling stops. When it gets real fun is if you get into ice or slick wet roads. Then you might not get enough torque to unlock the locker and both tires will turn at the same speed. Then the fun begins when the rear end of the jeep wants to trade places with the front end.

Be careful until you have some experience driving it.

 

Normal

I have the lock right

I want to go the the torsen style limited slip, like the Detroit Truetrac. But I don't know if this does the same or not???

Jay

 

Normal

My Detroit does the same thing. It helps to have good thight steering. I just put in new spring bushings in the front. That helped reduced the torque steer.

 

this is normal, a spool/detroit would be the same thing and a powertrax is the same thing as a lock-rite and backlash has kind of nothing to do with it. my 442 does it on a smaller scale. it's just amplified 'cause of the soft suspention /tires and the jeep is taller. just get used to it and be carefull on wet roads and snow as stated .

 

I've had the same road manners on my lockright willys, check your spring eye bushings for wear. Forward end of the rear springs in particular, if they're worn they will allow your axle to change position in relation to your frame and lots of wear can cause the effect your talking about. I had the old style rubber bushings and they were trashed. I put the poly bushings in my spring eyes and they helped but the lockright does affect road manners due to the loading and unloading of the locker.

 

Thanks to all for your answers. Always I have used ARB lockers and it is the first time that I use the automatic one.

The spring eye bushings are also OK ,and have less than 2000 miles.

Today I have been driving the Willys to work and also I have raised the tire pressure up to ~2Bars (~30psi) and maybe drives a little better....

I have at home a YJ springs to install with polyurethane bushings, with these wider springs can I feel an improvement with the sway produced by the lock right?

I have a buddy who wants to buy a locker and I can sell mine to him. It is worth changing the lock right to a synchronized powertrax, or scarcely I will notice improvement in the driving on road?

Thanks for your answers and sorry for my poor english.

 

please correct me if I'm wrong ,guys but I think lockrite and powertrax are the same.

 

Powertrax = mfg, Lock right = model. They have other models, AFAIK.

This thread is good info. My neighbor put a LR in his Samuri with 32" tires and spring over ... absolutely no prob with road manners. I didn't believe it when I rode in it. Now I guess he's just lucky and I'm rethinking a LR.

 

I'v allways used the detroit tru-trc lsd, it's gear driven and requires no modifires. It has great street manors and pulls like a tank off road. even if you get a wheel lifted, you can appliy a little brake presure, this forces the wheels to pull together.

 

Thanks again for your help. I'm calmer knowing that is normal that this locker works this way.

I believe that I am the problem because I'm very meticulous and a perfectionist with the functioning of my cars


cj5/442 Re: Problems with my lock right

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please correct me if I'm wrong ,guys but I think lockrite and powertrax are the same.


cj5/442 I believe that is essentially the same locker but the couplers and drivers are synchronized and the builder says that rear sways produced by the locker are less; maybe it's only marketing...

the lock right http://www.powertrax.com/powertrax/lockright.html
the powertrax http://www.powertrax.com/powertrax/noslip.html

 

I got the torsion lsd on my 09 ranger FX4, it operates just like the tru-trac. It really makes a difference in the truck compared to the old clutch style track loc ford used. It grabs and goes, great on the road. Just a little tire chirp once in a while if you power out of a turn, awesome unit's. If I was doing a weekend warrior only, I would go with the detroit locker for it's strength.

 

Hi guys!
I have good notices, miraculously the locker now works great on road, even with medium-low pressure on tires. I ran it for 600 miles aprox. and now i can't notice the sway when accel/decel. ;only occasionally and less than before.

I don't know why, because I haven't done anything to the jeep and isn't a subjective opinion caused because I'm adapted to the new road manner with the locker.