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Quick Saginaw Question:

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by wheelie, Jul 9, 2022.

  1. wheelie

    wheelie beeg dummy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Is the bolt pattern on the power boxes the same as the manual boxes?
     
  2. 3b a runnin

    3b a runnin Active Member 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Good question.
    I need to convert my 73 to power saginaw
     
  3. Desert Runner

    Desert Runner Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    when I converted mine I used the same mount from my manual box on the PS box. but mine is a 78 so I don't know.....
     
  4. oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

    Jeep power and manual boxes both use the exact same mounting pattern.
    Except that the power box is 4 bolts while the manual is just 3 bolts.
    The slightly smaller manual boxes will alway fit in place of power boxes.
    I always set mine up for the 4 bolt power box considering clearance and fitment even when I only install a manual box.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2022
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  5. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Same as oldtime - I set mine up for a power box even if I'm putting a manual in. Makes it easier for folks to change later if they want to. I've even got a bad box I use for fitting them up when I do a build or conversion for folks.
     
  6. wheelie

    wheelie beeg dummy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Thanks folks. Hoping to maybe try one these free J10 Saginaw boxes on it over the winter.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2022
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  7. oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

    If I’m not mistaken the J10 used the best boxes and the same as the CJ’s.
    The Saginaw 400 series power steering box,
    I expect the Jeep boxes will all have the big “78” embossed onto the casting.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2022
  8. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    The J10 steering gears are the same as the Wagoneer/Cherokee steering gears, and overlap with the CJ-5 gears though not in the same years. I think they are ordinary GM passenger car gears. The J20 has a larger diameter gear that is different and sought after. It's the same as the unit used in some GM commercial chassis, though I don't know what the year/model coverage is. AFAIK the J20 gear has the same bolt-in pattern as the lighter-duty Wagoneer gears.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2022
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  9. dnb71R2

    dnb71R2 SuperDave 2023 Sponsor