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Hat Channel

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by colojeepguy, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    So, my hat channels aren't rusty like most Jeeps get, but the passenger side one has cracked in half. Any ideas how to repair this, short of pulling the body off the frame and totally replacing it?

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  2. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Not unknown, I'd just weld a patch over it.
     
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  3. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Post Rubicon, my passenger side hat channel looks exactly the same..... I was going to wire wheel it up and make a patch out of 1/8" flat stock and "strap" the bottom. Stitch weld 1" lengths every 3 or 4 inches.
     
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  4. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    Chassis flex will do that! MIG that back together, and add (weld) a sheetmetal plate formed over it.
    -Donny
     
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  5. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I wonder if there would be any reason to worry about the wood in there catching on fire if welding on that crack.
     
  6. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    Otherwise I found some rectangular channel that slipped over the stock hat channels and worked well as a band aid.
     
  7. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    I'm concerned about this...

    Do you remember where you got it?
     
  8. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Doug - you could bend some up to fit. It shouldn't be too hard... and no, do not weld on the wood support. I've caught them on fire with a cut off wheel before, and then you will be in a bigger fix.
     
  9. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    The Crack is very close to one of the mounts, which I assume has wood in it. I don't know how to fix this without causing a fire...
     
  10. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Give the wood a good soaking before welding & keep a squirt bottle handy.
     
  11. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Can you tell that the body flexes?
     
  12. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    No but it makes creaky popping noises when going down a steep hill.
     
  13. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I think best thing would be first determine the condition of the wood that's in there.
     
  14. scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    I had the same area problems. I welded a patch over the top. As for the wood in the cannels. After replacing my hat channels with new. There is no wood in that area.
     
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  15. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    That would certainly make for less to worry about then.
     
  16. Dave Deyton

    Dave Deyton Member

    I like the idea of soaking the wood for welding if it is not removed.

    Made some new sections of hat channel for patches on the sheet metal brake.
    The order of the bends is important without a pan brake.
    I made the first ones out of poster board numbering them to get the order of the bends.
    Where the wood is in the hat channel, I cut the steel and pulled out the wooden block. Ended up replacing that part, though. Though about replacing it with
    engineered deck material so it wouldn't collect water and rot.
    Ended up cutting a piece of pipe as a spacer for the bolt hole with large washers for support. Haven't finished it up yet.
    Planning on welding up the pipe to the floor board and hat channel, and patching up the hat channel.

    Of course, I have the body off. Just hoping the bolt holes line up when I re-install it on the chassis.
    If not, the hat channel may have an extension on it making it wider.

    The hat channel that goes out to the side of the body gets less tall, so I will cut the hat channel with horizontal
    slits and made it fit then weld it up.

    Just have to wait long enough between welds to keep from warping the steel.

    Sand blasted the center support over the trans, added in steel where it was missing, used weld thru primer and covered it with 18ga.
    steel, bending it as I went and welded it in. After a lot of grinding it looks OK and will be strong.

    Dave
     
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  17. Rick Whitson

    Rick Whitson Detroit Area 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Something else to consider is to make templates out cardboard, cut them out of 14-16 gage steel, drill holes every half inch, screw every other hole to the hat channel with sheet metal screws to pull it all tight together plug weld the holes without screws, remove the screws and plug weld where the screws were. Make sure to clean the paint and rust off before you start so the rust and dirt will not cause the weld to blow out. If it is not clean before you weld it will not weld right. Not easy to fix, but can be done. Good Luck
     
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  18. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    I think it was just 1" x 2" channel that I got at my normal steel supplier.

    Then again, it's been a few years..;)
     
  19. dane71

    dane71 Member

    For a while ive been thinking of using the sandwhiched style body mounts (like 76+) that work in tension/compression instead if just compression. I dunno how common this is but im gonna have to consider it more...

    Edit: well what i did see in your picture is already set up that way, so nevermind maybe.
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2019
  20. scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    If you do weld the floor. Take everything out of the under seat tool box.