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Discussion in 'Quitters' Club' started by Posimoto, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. Rubicloak

    Rubicloak Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I have an 06 Rubicon LJ setup the same.... 37's, 5.13's, ARB front and rear (separate switches) with Rubicrawler. I also put seat heaters in on my factory seats, each with its own control (love them) Thing is a beast in the rocks and snow with the Rubicrawler. Being able to split gears no matter if in 2wd, 4WH or 4WL is amazing and completely changes wheeling. You will love it like this!!

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  2. Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

    Did you install the Rubicrawler? I'm looking at doing it myself as it seems pretty straight forward.
     
  3. Rubicloak

    Rubicloak Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yes. It's actually a very straightforward and easy install
     
  4. Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

    Eric? That look like Tom and Kevin in the pic. I just noticed that.
    John Briggs
     
  5. Rubicloak

    Rubicloak Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    ^^ Hey John! Yup ;)
     
  6. Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

    Time for a little update. I have run a bunch of trails from mild to wild this summer and couldn't be happier with the LJ and especially the auto tranny. Still haven't had time to install the Rubicrawler, but it will go in soon. Trying to get one more run in before winter. Sad thing is I haven't been able to find time to run the Rubicon from the Loon Lake trailhead yet but have been to Rubicon Springs 3 times this summer. Also done Barrett Lake, Slickrock, Deer Valley and upper Bronco Canyon. Working on finishing up the paint on the Poison Spider full cage and that will go in same time as the Rubicrawler. What I like: I can drive at freeway speed to the trail, run the trail and, get this, there are NO oil drips under the Jeep. I don't have to check hub bolts every time I go out of take apart the front hubs/wheel bearings to clean and repack. The auto tranny lets me stop on uphill climbs without having to do the pedal dance with the brake, accelerator and clutch and it never stalls the engine. What I don't like so far is: nothing. I still have Posi and plan to work on him this winter too. May sell in the Spring, or maybe not.

    Pics are of the roll cage. Takes a lot of tubing to make an LJ cage and no I didn't build it. Don't trust my welds with my life. It's from Poison Spyder.

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  7. jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

    Nice looking cage, well built. Glad you are enjoying the LJ.

    Need more pics of your new home too.

    Sounds like you may keep Posi??
     
  8. txtoller

    txtoller Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Looks good!
     
  9. Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    was it shipped in one big box . looks nice
     
  10. 47v6

    47v6 junk wrecker! 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    one thing about those is the front section thats made of flat and not tube steel with a crease for some rigidity. In a flat fender that would go a very long way in allowing some legroom. Anyone got any real experience with that?
     
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  11. jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

    My Dad built a cage for his Cherokee with flat steel in the driver and passenger area. It was very thick and held up well. The cage actually made the Cherokee more rigid (no full frame). My son rolled it slowly twice within in 10 minutes and there was zero damage.
     
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  12. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    Rollcage discussions can get political...;) I've always thought much of the rollcage engineering advice was from high-speed situations like drag racing. Jeep rollovers aren't usually that. I rolled my CJ5 1 and 1/4 times, had just the standard hoop plus two spreaders to a front windshield hoop, all just bolted to the body. It held.
     
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  13. 47v6

    47v6 junk wrecker! 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    There is just zero room for your feet in a flat fender. If this is that good of an option for a larger jeep, why not for a smaller one?
     
  14. 47v6

    47v6 junk wrecker! 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Political or not, hurt feelings and any sort of pontificating aside, Poison Spyder has put their name on a cage they are selling. I bet their insurance mandates that some sort of engineering stamp with real numbers are involved in their decision to sell these cages.

    That being said, I see a made in america slogan, but no claims of any engineering standards that they adhere too.https://shop.poisonspyder.com/Jeep-Roll-Cages-Components-s/38.htm

    I hope that these people designing and spec ing out the material, standards and processes have more training and experience than us. I like to "trust, but verify".
     
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  15. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    I like that...There are a lot of well experienced people on this forum that have a lot of broad ranging expertise, but for some (many?) of us, we reach a point where a topic or skill is beyond our knowledge, expertise etc...and that is why/when we pay for someone else to do it...And we have to trust they know their stuff and do it right, and it verified by an independent agency for certification etc....
     
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  16. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    I'd be shocked if there weren't a number of disclaimers in the packaging, vs. engineering data.
     
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  17. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

  18. Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

    It came on a pallet, attached with pipe clamps. The legs were bolted to several pieces of 1 1/2" cold rolled flat stock to keep them from being tweaked . The flat pieces at the front of the cage bolt to the A pillar with 4 bolts each side and to the floor. The floor mount will be tied into the frame. The front of the cage has tubing welded above and below the windshield and is attached to the windshield frame at the top. I have zero concerns about the strength of the cage. All tubing and flat stock are 3/16" thick. My only concern is how much weight I'm adding. It's a trade-off, weight vs safety. Might be able to add photo of it right-side-up later today. Pretty much finished with the rattle-can paint job yesterday.
     
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  19. Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

    Started the Rubicrawler install a couple of days ago. Got the monster looking t-case out. It's not as heavy as I thought. Although I did use a tranny jack instead of just dropping it on my chest like I used to do with the Model 18. Even though the case is aluminum it's still an impressive 90 lbs. I'll get some pics up later.
     
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  20. Steve's 70-5

    Steve's 70-5 Active Member

    How’s things going