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Geo Tracker/Suzuki Sidekick Disc Brake Solution For Early CJ5's

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by tarry99, Mar 23, 2018.

  1. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Just get thin top lock nuts.
     
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  2. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Just to update for the people doing this, you will absolutely need a hub puller, and a 39/64" drill bit to open the mounting holes in the rotors.
     
  3. william_cj3b

    william_cj3b 3BOB driver

    X2 on the hub puller for the rear!

    You're upgrading from 10" brakes? Are your wheel studs larger at the hub?
     
  4. william_cj3b

    william_cj3b 3BOB driver

    So I did a mockup on a parts jeep today. I wanted to see if the vented rotor setup from a 4-door Tracker would work with stock wheels. I left the pads out and pushed the caliper all the way towards the wheel. There's no interference with a 16" wheel or the steering knuckle. Note - the wheel I used is a welded 16" 'creased disc' type. I plan to look at how much interference there is with the 15x4.5 and 15x5.5 wheels.

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  5. william_cj3b

    william_cj3b 3BOB driver

    A comparison of the 2-dr and 4-dr Suzuki brakes...

    The 2-dr rotor (top) is ~3mm larger diameter.
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    The 4-dr pads have a slightly larger contact area.
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    The 4-dr calipers have larger pistons.
    4-dr = 2.100"
    2-dr = 1.887"
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    I plan to use the vented rotors up front and the solid rotors on the rear.
     
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  6. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Stock 9" drums.
    I think either the studs are a fuzz larger or the geo disk mounting holes dont quite line up with old jeep stuff. Its sooo close.
     
  7. mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

    My Geo rotors slipped right on. Did not have to drill out.
     
  8. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Am I wrong thinking that there should be more holding the rotor to the hub than the wheel lugnuts?
     
  9. william_cj3b

    william_cj3b 3BOB driver

    Yes and no. The wheel lugs are what actually hold the disc in place but, the Suzuki discs are drilled and counterbored for retaining screws just like the 9" drums. You could drill and tap your hubs if you like.
     
  10. Oldriginal86

    Oldriginal86 Member

    Your not going anywhere without wheels so no need for anything BUT the lugnuts.
     
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  11. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    ill post a pic of my rotor on the hub pre drilled out. its close, but not going on w/out drilling. it is the same on all 4 corners.
     
  12. mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

    It's been a year so maybe I've forgot something, but I don't remember having to. If I had to drill them out, I'm sure I would have mentioned it here My Geo Tracker Disc Conversion Experience
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2019
  13. william_cj3b

    william_cj3b 3BOB driver

    I'd like to see you setup. The vented discs slipped right onto the hubs in the mockup I did (early 5 w/ D25).
     
  14. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    So very close... Resized_20190423_155109.jpeg
     
  15. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Does this hump thingy stay with the new brake system?
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  16. tarry99

    tarry99 Member

    still using the old tapered axles? then Yes..
     
  17. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yup, figured it's the oil drain thingy...
     
  18. tarry99

    tarry99 Member

    From page #1 Notes:
    -The holes in the rotors for the wheel studs need drilled out to .609 with a
    39/64 drill bit. A good hand drill typically works fine. I have heard of the register being
    up to .614" in some cases
     
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  19. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yup. Some people get lucky and dont have to drill. I did though.
     
  20. william_cj3b

    william_cj3b 3BOB driver

    So your wheel studs are larger than 1/2"-20 thread? Or are they just larger at the knurled end and keeping the discs from sitting flat on the hubs?