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Norcal69's Common Sense Build.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Norcal69, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I cleared pretty easily with the 1-1/4”. I’ll throw it on the forklift in the next few days and make a taller bumpstop if needed.
     
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  2. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I’ve had a bit of a saggy a** since my yj spring install.
    The Jeep sits level when it’s low on fuel but when full it starts sagging pretty good. Add a dog, cooler and we’re just going down. I picked up the OME recommended extra leaf. My plan is to add the leaf to the spring packs and shorten the shackle length. Currently the shackles are 4.5” center to center. Goal is to get down to 4”.

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  3. Cowboyjeeper

    Cowboyjeeper Member

    What axle is that to have park brakes on the back.
     
  4. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    It is a centered d44 from a 72-75 Jeep. Brakes are stock 11”
     
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  5. Cowboyjeeper

    Cowboyjeeper Member

    I thought maybe someone figured out the rear park brakes on our old offset44 inhat my t case brake
     
  6. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    You can put the later 11" brakes on your early offset axle.
     
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  7. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    The extra leaf install went pretty quick. Both the before and after pics are with low fuel in both tanks. After filling with fuel we still have a slight rake that will likely sit level when loaded with camping gear. My original plan was to install the extra leaf and shorten the rear shackle. I am going to run it for a while before changing the shackle length.

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  8. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    I like a bit of forward rake...or lets say if its not going to be level, forward rake is way better than sagging in the back - although I understand that is the southern cali style on pick-ups these days. Those overly flexy YJ springs have their downside! Are you running the 33s full-time now? I think you'll appreciate the extra clearance with the 33s. Mine is opposite - its got a bit too much forward rake. Really, it could just use a bit more lift in the front - been thinking about adding a slightly longer shackle. Running 3.25" eye to eye - wouldn't mind that being more like 3.75"-4" on the front. At the same time, the more I push the front end up, the more my cross-over drag link gets out of whack and no drop pitman option with bellcrank. Was also thinking of taking the 3.25" shackles off the cj and putting them on the wagon...good excuse for some new cj shackles?

    oh - I probably just missed it - i am not great at following build threads - did you change your shackles or add some sort of stop to keep them from inverting? I've never had that issue, but my springs aren't that flexy.
     
  9. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I took the plunge and mounted the 33's up permanently. Right now I am running a 4" boomerang shackle on the front to prevent inversion. On the rear I am running a home built 4.5" shackle with a welded in cross brace.
     
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  10. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    guessing they don't make those for narrow springs
     
  11. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Any spring width you want them for.....
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  12. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    Nice - i like those. Could get the standard set for the rear...But I wonder about whether a center support would be beneficial with a 4" long shackle...I have welded H center support on the 3.25" ones I am running now. I probably don't need it with that short of a shackle, but...I don't know....One downside with the short H shackles is the military wrap binds a bit on the BDS...my previous springs did not have military wrap.
     
  13. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    The H support is what makes the boomerang shackle effective against inversion. I have yet to install the center bolt and sleeve on mine.... but will do before rubicon.
     
  14. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I got the 2" front drive line installed. Preliminary flex test looks good but I did not unhook the sway bar. When the sway bar is unhooked It looks like it will still clear.....but its gonna be close to the starter.

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  15. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    New bigger spare tire pad. The small 2"round stop pad allowed the carrier to flex, this taller 3"x2" pad took about half the flex out.

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  16. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Trail Shelf Build........
    I stole this idea from FinoCJ after last years group Rubicon trip.
    I was running a roof basket for the majority of my jeep camping, grocery running, hunting, ranch work, ect...... Everything was great until I unhooked the sway bar and loaded it up for camping/wheeling on the Rubicon.
    That rubicon trip taught me several things.....
    1) The the loaded roof basket/ no swaybar combo makes for a very high center of gravity.
    2) My wife packs way too much shi*
    3) I drive like a little girl off road...... :shrug:
    So after modifying my wife's luggage and camping comfort expectations.... :rofl:I have set out to build what I call a Trail Shelf.
    The shelf will be easily removable for the other 95% of the time that the jeep is in use.
    The dimensions of the cargo area are 20"x 50" with 2" tall sides.... a little bit more than half the area of my former roof basket.
    I bent it up out of 18ga steel. It is a little heavier than I envisioned..... we will be addressing that issue shortly.
    Pics.....

    24" x 54" 18Ga

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    Edges marked out, 1/8" holes drilled in every corner.

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    Corners notched with shears....

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    On to the straight brake.......

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    Then the Pan brake.......

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    All welded up.

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    Some mock up.

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    Now I said at the beginning that this ended up a bit heavier than I envisioned it would be. So here is where I am at. Basically every intersection of solid line is a 1.5" (32) total dimple die holes. The smaller line marks will be 1" (21) dimple die holes....... 1/8" pilot holes are drilled.... step drill is next.

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  17. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    Just to ask - how heavy are you talking: before and after? Keep in mind some tie-down points will be helpful....you've probably already got an idea for those....
     
  18. Oldriginal86

    Oldriginal86 Member

    Concerning the weight of the shelf and the items stowed up there, have you thought of a nylon web type net of the same dimensions?
     
  19. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I did not weigh it before I started drilling holes......:banghead:..... but I will afterwards. This one will likely get passed on to Steve and I'll make myself a better one.....
     
  20. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I did think about a webbing net..... but I don't think I could get it tight enough to do the job. This piece is about to go on a major diet....