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To speed or not to speed...

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by tcfeet, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. tcfeet

    tcfeet Member

    Looking at a 65 cj5 with a four cylinder. Total stock .
    My question is: at what speed can it be driven on the highway
    without abusing it?
    Also does anyone have experience with an add-on overdrive?
    Thanks.
     
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    Use the search function, as both of these subjects have been discussed before.
    I'm betting you'll find your answers.;)
     
  3. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    thats so crazy
    it just might work!:p
     
  4. kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

    just my honest opion, with 5.38 gears f134, no over drive 50mph is as fast as i want to push it, 45mph is a little bit more comfortable for me
     
  5. Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

    Anything over 45 on a highway, and the only thing catching abuse will be the driver!
     
  6. kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

    :rofl:R) this is so true:D
     
  7. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know...My brother's F Head/5.38's with 33's is plenty fine at 55, even 60, down hill....Don't be afraid to run your F head at 4K RPM....
     
  8. kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

    no tach in my jeep, my ears tell me when enough is enough ;)
     
  9. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    i keep it at about 35-40.
    if i am in a hurry i'll drive my truck.;)
     
  10. slick51

    slick51 New Member

    my 66 w/ the v6 is wound pretty tight at 55 mph
     
  11. Rumpeltiltskin

    Rumpeltiltskin New Member

    the F head runs great at 4000 RPM.....for about 12 seconds, BOOM
     
  12. CO64CJ5

    CO64CJ5 Member

    I once did 70 in mine, but that was with the windshield down and a crazy teenager at the wheel. :shock:

    No seatbelts either, but then it wouldn't have made any difference.

    It was only for a very short distance -- I don't know what would have disintegrated first, gearboxes, engine, or my ears. :oops:
     
  13. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    With 31" tires and 4.88 gears the v6 should be spinning 3000rpm at 57 mph. I drive mine with 3.73's at 70-75mph on the interstate. A good Dauntless should spin at 4 grand all day long. So yours isn't wound up as tight as you think.
     
  14. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    I don't agree with that at all. The L and F-head engines are VERY durable. Search through the forum here, there's plenty of debunking of this myth...

    A V6 shouldn't be "wound tight" at 55 unless you've got something really wrong with it.
     
  15. Rumpeltiltskin

    Rumpeltiltskin New Member

    the f 134 is a very durable engine, I will give you that. but if you are revving much over about 3000 rpm for long periods of time I highly doubt it would last very long. It has a very long stroke, not designed for high speed revving!
     
  16. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    yes, we know what some opinons are on the subject...
    here's my facts.

    lasted 11 years for me...all highway and dune driving, 4000rpm no problem.
    it only came out because I wanted the 225.
    they aren't fragile, and they are very durable, long stroke included.
    (this of course assumes that the F4 in question is mechanically sound.)

    folks that believe the 3500 or less theories seem to not have much seat time driving .....but lots of reading time.
     
  17. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    :shrug: Guess you didn't do a search...
     
  18. windyhill

    windyhill Sponsor

    Just took a trip this yesterday in a CJ3A (L head, 5:38's, stock) 45-50 was fine I could push 60 if I wanted but 50 with no belts and fun steering is fine for me.:) My wife drove the 3b (V6 5:38's overdrive, 32" tires) It can do 70+ no problem but feels comfortable at around 55-65. The power or gearing isn't the limiting factor it's me.;) These Jeeps are sure fun to just tool along and enjoy the sites at a leisurely pace.
     
  19. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Wasn't there a stress test that someone posted a few years back where the military tested the orignal L head for somehting like 10 hours at 4000rpm before signing off on the design?
     
  20. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I know they tested the F head like that, but IIRC they ran it for 24 hrs., changed the oil, and kept going.
    I remember one time my brother put the throttle to the floor with his and just held it there....Probably only for a minute or so. It reaches max RPM that it'll turn, and just stays there...Something over 4000 RPM....
    I don't think you can grenade an F head by over revving it...