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Input on Grizzly Industries

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Warloch, Nov 7, 2006.

  1. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Guys – wanted some input on Grizzly Industrial Tools. I don’t want another Harbor Freight type tool – I’ve just had to many problems with their stuff lately to spend any more money on their equipment.

    I am looking at the following Drill Press and Band Saw.

    Thoughts? How is the company quality?
     
  2. SIDSCJ

    SIDSCJ Jeep addict

    I have no exp. with them, but a buddy of mine set up a small gunsmithing shop with that brand after he graduated from school. He does custom 1911 work and such, I know he's pleased with the quality work he's able to do with that brand.
     
  3. jplumb

    jplumb Her tractor first, now...

    I think they are about the same quailty as "jet" or "delta" tools. Good to very good from what I have heard. Just not a proven as "powermatic" or "porter cable."
     
  4. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Chuck for the most part they are the same machines as harbor freight the big difference is in the specs and quality control. They are held to a much higher set of standards than harbor freight does, the machines are also spec'd different on certain things giving them better motors and switches and better machines overall. I have used the drill press you pictured, a friend of mine bought one about 2 years ago, it works fine. The saw I can say nothing bad about as I have not used that particular model. The one thing I will say is that Grizzly has a very good customer service setup and usually stands behind there products real well.
     
  5. Vanguard

    Vanguard Take Off! Staff Member

    My thoughts are the grizzly equipment is nothing more than the harbor freight equipment with green paint and a higher price. I wouldn't make any guesses at all about them having a higher set of standards or better quality control.
     
  6. My father uses an industrial table saw from Grizzly for grist mill restoration, it is far & above better in quality than anything you get at Harbor Freight. Their customer service is also very good.
     
  7. Vanguard

    Vanguard Take Off! Staff Member

    There products don't overlap in all respects, but when they do I think they're the same products with different colors. Yes some of the HF stuff is junk, but some of it is great. I have a 4in Benchtop jointer that is a very nice piece of equipment. I looked at the HF benchtop shaper and compared it against the grizzly for $50 and it was the same machine. (I bought a craftsman router table off of craigslist instead).

    Some of the HF equipment gets excellent reviews check out tool talk at www.bt3central.com. The 14 bandsaw and one of the drill press models are highly recommended. The same goes for their 2hp dust collector. The HF earthquake series impacts (IR clones) and some of their pneumatic nailers are great deals too. My $14 18 gauge brad nailer kicks ***. I've driven over a 1000 brads without a jam. The only issue I've ever had was running at 125 psi by mistake instead of the 95 psi recommended.

    My table saw is a Ridgid TS2400L. :D

    Here's a review of the HF 43389 drill press.

    http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=22965&highlight=drill+press

    16 speeds plus a 1 hp motor in place of the 1/2. Pick it up locally and add a 1 year no questions asked return policy warranty for $20 and you're still saving $80 plus shipping if your HF is local.

    My drill press is a Jet Shopline and the HF models compare well or are the same model.
     
  8. duke54

    duke54 Member

    I'd go for the Grizzly drillpress but the band saw no,delta,jet,rockell would be my choice.The guides make the band saw work right and grizzly you would have to upgrade,good guides could cost you as much as $300.00 ,even buying a used rockell would the best bet,just my 2cents bin in woodworking biss for 30+ years.
     
  9. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    One of the items that soured me on HF was the horizontal / vertical metal band saw. It didn’t even make it through the build of my cage this spring (I can not even get it to keep a blade on it now). I ended up having to buy a chop saw just to get things done. From my days as a welder, I guess I just got used to having a good band saw. I really prefer it to a chop saw and want to be able to set it and have it cut while I do other things. One of the things I want to try to do with it is cut axles down next year – that means I need it to be reliable…

    Maybe I need to save some more money and step up… just not sure to what as I don’t remember to many brands, and those I do aren’t in business any longer (guess that makes me an ‘old fart’).
     
  10. mr1t5abcde

    mr1t5abcde New Member

    Check out www.shoptask.com for one of the best 3-n-1 machines, I have seen. Coming from a machinist, it is quite impressive!
     
  11. I had one and it was not worth the time it took for me to open the box. It would jam contantly. Bought a Porter Cable and finished building my log house with only a few jams. Used it for all of the trim, tounge and groove cieling, etc.

    HF equipment is not all bad. Just some things are not worth the trouble. It seems that everyone has thier own opinions. Guess that if one person buys a few pieces and they work for them, they will say it is great stuff. On the other hand someone else only needs one or two bad experiences with the same stuff and it becomes "junk"

    Sorry nothing beneficial to add about the grizzly line
     
  12. Vanguard

    Vanguard Take Off! Staff Member

    Do you have the red or the green one? You might find some help here - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4x6bandsaw/

    It looks like the green is being phased out in favor of the red saw. I like mine (green). It's been very good so far, although I did replace the HF blade with a Ridgid and will probably go with Enco blades in the future.

    63CJ, you're right here. There's a lot of stuff that's just crap and not worth even the low price HF offers, but some of the stuff is very good.
     
  13. :iagree:
     
  14. Project71-5

    Project71-5 BACON

    I've had the green HF bandsaw for about 3 years now with no problems whatsoever. First thing I did was replace the blade with a Starrett from Grainger.
     
  15. Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

    HF isn't a manufacturer, is it? Aren't they just an importer/distributor of products from many different manufacturers, mostly Chinese? I've bought a lot of small stuff from them, some is crap and some seems fine for my needs. Got a hankerin' for one of their 440/880 lb. electric shop hoists. Don't know that I'd buy any big-ticket items for heavy use from them though.
     
  16. Extreem

    Extreem Member

    It might be worth you while to look for distributors of used equipment in your area. Typically you can get better quality equipment for great prices if you dont mind the fact the stuff doesn't look new.

    Extreem
     
  17. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    I have the green saw that I got from MSC in 1992, the thing has sawn 1000's of feet of solid bar stock. Its been a great little saw. I use Lennox band saw material on mine, I have them welded at a local shop with a band blade welder. It is the same saw that Harbor freight sold back in the early 90's and is about 40lbs heavier than the newer models. No plastic of any kind other than the handle for the vise and the pulley cover.
     
  18. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    My HF setup was a green one as well... I got it based on folks saying they had good luck with them, but mine just didn't pan out. I am lookin for an equipment distributer around here, but have not had any luck yet.
     
  19. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Pm sent Chuck!!!
     
  20. jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    x2 on that bandsaw. I'm just a hobbyist and don't have the patience for it. Got a Delta and am happy now.

    I've owned some Grizzly woodworking stuff, but never metal working. I don't think it is comparing apples to apples to say Grizzly is on par with HF, or vice versa. I think Grizzly, like a lot of tool manf, have more than one product line. They've got some cheap junk, and they've got some heavy stuff. I used one of their heavy jointers one time and loved it. Had infeed/outfeed as big as an aircraft carrier, all cast iron. I have never bought a tool at HF that I "loved."

    I own almost all Delta now, primarily because I've got a local supplier. I've noticed Delta has about 3 different lines instead of two. I would stay away from the "Shopmaster" series, IMHO.