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Kinda Funny, But Not! New Shift Boot, Shifts Itself! Lol

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by 70cj5134f, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. 70cj5134f

    70cj5134f Member

    Net boot on t90, really stiff.
    Yesterday while pulling someone out of ditch, when shifting from 1st to rev without looking(was looking backwards), it pulled itself out of 1st to neutral. Got to messimg with shorter and it would spring itself back to neutral bout half of the time?
    Is this normal on a new boot? Will it soften up?
    I rolled the little top nipple inside out and it seemed to help, bu5 it will come back out! 1535382722110748588759.jpg
     
  2. Beach66Bum

    Beach66Bum 1966 Tuxedo Park Mark IV 2024 Sponsor

    That shouldn’t happen with the new boot installed, even if the rubber is not as pliable as the old worn out one.
     
  3. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I smell a rebuild
     
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  4. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Body alignment, engine and trans mounts?

    I would keep the nipple up and out. These transmissions get ruined if rain leaks in from the shifter lever.
     
  5. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    Mine did that until the new boot broke in. Not saying it should, but it did. In most cases the cheap boots you get today will just crack and tear apart within a year anyway, and then it won't do in anymore.
     
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  6. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I think a NOS M38A1 boot might be better quality. They fit from under the floor plate rather than over it, but are truly water tight.
     
  7. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Try pushing it down as far as it will go and tightening a zip tie either around the boot, or around the shifter just above to boot to keep it in place.
     
  8. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Those boots are junk, try looking for the ones listed for an AC Cobra. I had 2 of them and finally tossed them and bought one of these. It worked right out of the package and has been in there for 12-13 years now.

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  9. Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor


    I use the same one . got off ebay . now you can get them almost everywhere
     
  10. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    The Omix boots are worthless. I used this boot - Amazon.com: Mr. Gasket 1651 Shifter Boot: Automotive - looks the same as what Mike recommends.

    No experience with the non-synchro B-W 3-speeds, but I believe the 1st-R gears simply slide on the main shaft. This means the only thing holding them in gear is the fit of the gears (wear!) and the detents in the shift top. Might be worthwhile to look at the exploded drawing for the shift top and consider if the detent springs need replacing. If the main shaft or sliding gear are worn so badly that the shift boot pushes them out of gear, it might be time for some new parts.
     
  11. 70cj5134f

    70cj5134f Member

    Didn't do it with no boot, or with the last boot, bellows style, so Don't get me worried something internal is wrong? Don't do it since I rolled the lip down! The boot is really firm and stiff.
    I'll roll the lip back out tomorrow, and push it down and install zip the.
    Thanks.
    And yes it's kinda cheap (5.99).
     
  12. Mr1964cj5

    Mr1964cj5 New Member

    Does anyone know where to get the metal ring that holds down the shifter boot on a 64 cj5. I have the one for the 2 transfer case shifters
     
  13. 70cj5134f

    70cj5134f Member

    I flipped the end back out, zip tied it and pushed it down a little to relax it.
    Seems to be ok now. 20180828_164724.jpg
     
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  14. Rick Whitson

    Rick Whitson Detroit Area 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    It seems like all the re-popped boots aren't worth even putting on, even if they were free. I have a single stick transfer case, and put a clutch fork rubber from a V 6 on it looked cool for about a month then fell apart. The answer seems to be find a vinyl one that is sown that will fit.
     
  15. 70cj5134f

    70cj5134f Member

    And what about a boot for my homemade twin stick?
    Is their a reasonable priced one that won't rip in a few months?
     
  16. jeepermc

    jeepermc Active Member

    Shifter boots
     
  17. 70cj5134f

    70cj5134f Member

    Great link on boots.
    Thanks
     
  18. Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    You might like this too... Look at Stronghold.

    Early CJ Vendor Directory
     
  19. homersdog

    homersdog Tulsa, Ok 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Just ordered one of these from Amazon, Thanks for the tip, Tim.