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Watching a toddler play w/a loaded gun
Yes, but only if it’s the exact angle of the rear bars!
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Oh.. well it is, everything is 45.
neohic
Gentleman Jeepist
Second side done. We went a little far when comparing side to side, but was able to take like 1 degree out of it by hand.
I cut and tacked in the B posts, and the cross at the top of the windshield. This will hold it together for transit back to the lake. Loaded up, this was an 8 hour day to this point.
The sun is going down, but I had to admire the look for a minute. I am happy the bending is done, and I couldn't have done it without Sam, so I appreciate that, he is a good man, and very generous to his big brother.
Next day, back home, I mocked up the front sheet metal so I can fold the windshield down. Then cut and installed the last 2 cross bars. One under the windshield, one across the B posts. Now I can see the full look.
After 42' of .120 DOM, I have enough left for 4 of these. I haven't installed them yet, still deciding. Thoughts? I think some triangulation would be good.
Proportions look great! I’d add some gussets. Triangulation is always good especially in a simple cage. The whole rig is coming together awesome!
Triangulation is ALWAYS good.
Thanks, I think so too. Ok, I'll tack these in and see how it looks. And, in all honesty, there is a lot more that could be done for strength, but there is a trade off with cargo space and accessibility, that I'm not willing to do. It's a slow speed trail rig.
Very true. One of the very best things you can do is put an X-brace behind the seats, but it completely destroys access to the back.
That said, it wouldn't hut to add more of those gussets from your B-pillars to the future cross brace between them.
You could have a bit of a happy medium, still get that rack bracing in there and not go all the way to the top.
I would be concerned about anything close to your head for other bracing.
You don’t feel it too much when you hit your head on a roll bar when your ejected from a jeep.. but you do later….
amboynut
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'80s era race car fabricator Carroll Smith defined "driver" as "a necessary evil that takes up space that could otherwise be used for triangulation".
I have all of his books on the shelf behind me.
I had to spot it up there so I could stand back and look. 45 degrees, like the back angle. I think I will drop the seat in and see where my head is.
I'll do another one from the B up to the cross bar. This will be a good node, right behind our heads.
I'll do another one from the B up to the cross bar. This will be a good node, right behind our heads.
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Thank you, I appreciate it. Hopefully I'll see you on the Rubicon.
Thank you. You are doing a great job on yours, the winch turned out nice. I hope to have a 8274 on here soon. See you on the Rubicon this year?
I am hoping to yank the cage out for welding in the next few days. In the mean time, because time is of the essence, I looked at my rocker guards. Like the cage and the top, they are now too short. I really like them, they have held up to hell and back for 25 years, so I decided to modify/stretch them, or at least try, before starting over, which is a lot of work I don't have time for. So, presentable? If you squint, they're mint.
15 minutes earlier...I finished trying to blend in the weld as best I could. I also added the little return by the rear tire they never had.
1/2 hour before that... I had fitted the newly bent .125 diamond plate to match the old pattern.
45 minutes earlier... I tacked the plates together, thinking I could torch heat the plate to bend. I ended up having to help it in the HF press brake.
Not long before that... I tested the pattern. It's not perfect, but what is? A little paint, and don't stand too close.
15 minutes earlier...I finished trying to blend in the weld as best I could. I also added the little return by the rear tire they never had.
1/2 hour before that... I had fitted the newly bent .125 diamond plate to match the old pattern.
45 minutes earlier... I tacked the plates together, thinking I could torch heat the plate to bend. I ended up having to help it in the HF press brake.
Not long before that... I tested the pattern. It's not perfect, but what is? A little paint, and don't stand too close.
That's the plan. Once the winch is done, the remaining critical items are:
- Install ARB air compressor
- Install ARB front air locker and alloy axle shafts
- More carb tuning for highway speeds. Low speed is pretty good
- Some basic storage under the seats - might just be tool bags and bungee cords
- Less important, but I would also like to swap in my 30 spline rear spindles, axle shafts and Spartan locker. If I don't get that done, the current 19 spline inner, 27 spline outer, Detroit locker combo will work.
- Drive the crap out of it as much as I can to shake it down before the big trip
Those gaps are nice! Welding will be a snap!I had to spot it up there so I could stand back and look. 45 degrees, like the back angle. I think I will drop the seat in and see where my head is.
I'll do another one from the B up to the cross bar. This will be a good node, right behind our heads.
Kinda like our "50 - 50" rule in roadracing bikes. If ya use the same color duct tape as yer bike ya can't see it or the zip ties holding the bodywork together if yer 50ft away & the bike is goin' at least 50 miles an hour!
I did not get the cage out for welding yet, but did work on the grille. First, a few coats of 2K primer on the grille and tool box door. Weather was warm enough for painting, in this weird winter.
This thing will not need much before going green. I want to mock up the grille and radiator now, to catch anything I might have missed. If anything, that is the lesson around here, anyway...mock everything. In fact just looking at it now, I can see I need a footman loop above the 2 "L's" for the windshield tie down.
I placed the Speedway LS radiator for mounting. It is 22" wide by 19" high. Hence the need for the headlight bucket trim. It also has 2 bungs, one of which I can use for the steam port return, needed to get air out of the high point in the cooling system.
Ok, it's in, and it still fits. The fan can now go around after I moved the lower radiator elbow. I'm not sure how I'm doing a shroud, but not worrying about it today. Things are getting tighter in here as I add things.
The hood has the correct reveal, and now I can finalize the frame mounts for the grille. Kind of reminds me of the old jeep racing rigs, with the headlights removed, then they would put blank plates over the headlight holes. One 3B I remember had "Hells Bells" written on the blank plates. I'll have to find that photo I have somewhere. But, I have more important things to do.
This thing will not need much before going green. I want to mock up the grille and radiator now, to catch anything I might have missed. If anything, that is the lesson around here, anyway...mock everything. In fact just looking at it now, I can see I need a footman loop above the 2 "L's" for the windshield tie down.
I placed the Speedway LS radiator for mounting. It is 22" wide by 19" high. Hence the need for the headlight bucket trim. It also has 2 bungs, one of which I can use for the steam port return, needed to get air out of the high point in the cooling system.
Ok, it's in, and it still fits. The fan can now go around after I moved the lower radiator elbow. I'm not sure how I'm doing a shroud, but not worrying about it today. Things are getting tighter in here as I add things.
The hood has the correct reveal, and now I can finalize the frame mounts for the grille. Kind of reminds me of the old jeep racing rigs, with the headlights removed, then they would put blank plates over the headlight holes. One 3B I remember had "Hells Bells" written on the blank plates. I'll have to find that photo I have somewhere. But, I have more important things to do.
Looking good.
Almost time for wiring.
Almost time for wiring.