supertrooper
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Im a big fan of the block hugger headers.
Fino's 1970 Cj5 Build Thread
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supertrooper
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Here is my setup, having the middle joint down and to the left really helped with exhaust clearance.
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may very well work for that purpose but I don't like headers so not going that route.....lets put it this way, I'll go to headers when I put in power steering.... ;-) ....mmmv
When your hand heals up from that manual kickback. Where are the emojis now?
cj2atruck
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Agree, when there is a choice, I want exhaust manifolds, but when a rig is being modified, especially a Jeep with very little room in the engine bay, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. I’ve repaired my headers a lot over the last 30 years, so they are getting long in the tooth, but 30 years is solid service life for headers.
I keep running into this same problem of finding a good shaft support/heim joint for the steering shaft to pass through when using 3 joints. All of the shaft supports for steering are for 3/4" (DD), but the steering shaft that works for my set-up is 1"DD where I can put the support. I guess the big issue is I want to use a telescoping/collapsible shaft (both for ease of install and for some safety measure), which uses 3/4DD that slides inside of the 1DD. Due to the diameter/spline count required for the gear input, I have to run the 3/4DD to that joint. That leaves the upper end of the shaft at 1DD....but I am not finding a reasonable 1" support for 1DD shaft anywhere.
I did order a 1" heim, but its massive in size as its build for heavy-ish equipment usage, plus the spherical swivel ball/heim seems to require undue leverage to get it to move. I actually think the hollow DD steering shaft would be at risk of bending before the heim swiveled when things flexed - maybe I am missing a way to 'unlock' the heim? Here's a pic of the two:
For all of the 1" DD shafts and ujoints sold for steering, seems there should be a matching 1" shaft support? I would be willing to drill out the 3/4 to 1' opening on the small support, but I don't think there is enough 'meat' on the inner swivel ball to allow that? Anyone try it?
I ran into this issue on the 58 as well, but so far I have avoided using a support by using only 2 joints, and basically getting lucky that the upper joint, while maxed out with the angle of operation, so far doesn't bind in mostly on-road usage.
I did order a 1" heim, but its massive in size as its build for heavy-ish equipment usage, plus the spherical swivel ball/heim seems to require undue leverage to get it to move. I actually think the hollow DD steering shaft would be at risk of bending before the heim swiveled when things flexed - maybe I am missing a way to 'unlock' the heim? Here's a pic of the two:
For all of the 1" DD shafts and ujoints sold for steering, seems there should be a matching 1" shaft support? I would be willing to drill out the 3/4 to 1' opening on the small support, but I don't think there is enough 'meat' on the inner swivel ball to allow that? Anyone try it?
I ran into this issue on the 58 as well, but so far I have avoided using a support by using only 2 joints, and basically getting lucky that the upper joint, while maxed out with the angle of operation, so far doesn't bind in mostly on-road usage.
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I keep running into this same problem of finding a good shaft support/heim joint for the steering shaft to pass through when using 3 joints. All of the shaft supports for steering are for 3/4" (DD), but the steering shaft that works for my set-up is 1"DD where I can put the support. I guess the big issue is I want to use a telescoping/collapsible shaft (both for ease of install and for some safety measure), which uses 3/4DD that slides inside of the 1DD. Due to the diameter/spline count required for the gear input, I have to run the 3/4DD to that joint. That leaves the upper end of the shaft at 1DD....but I am not finding a reasonable 1" support for 1DD shaft anywhere.
I did order a 1" heim, but its massive in size as its build for heavy-ish equipment usage, plus the spherical swivel ball/heim seems to require undue leverage to get it to move. I actually think the hollow DD steering shaft would be at risk of bending before the heim swiveled when things flexed - maybe I am missing a way to 'unlock' the heim? Here's a pic of the two:
For all of the 1" DD shafts and ujoints sold for steering, seems there should be a matching 1" shaft support? I ran into this issue on the 58 as well, but so far I have avoided using a support by using only 2 joints, and basically getting lucky that the upper joint, while maxed out with the angle of operation, so far doesn't bind in mostly on-road usage.
A 1" pillow block is another option.
you mean something like this?
These are way bigger than they look as well....it won't fit on the motor mount in the right place to fit the shaft
I don't know how much collapsing length you need, but chopping the 1" double D shorter and welding a 3/4" double D into the upper end of it could also work. Welding or bolting one end would be a must so the center 1" DD can't slide around enough to fall out.
supertrooper
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From the steering gear get a spud shaft to get the first joint behind the crossmember, 3/4 DD to 1DD joint, collapsable shaft with 1 inch section towards the front of jeep, 3/4 heim joint as close to next joint as possible with a clamp on collar next to heim, 3/4 to 3/4 joint then last joint to what ever you decide to do for the end of the steering column. I used borguson shfts and joints on my jeep. I still cant get the pic to load. Let me know if you want me to dm a pic of how i did it on my jeep. Btw i got my spud shaft from mcruff on here at a custom length, but i dont know if he is still making parts.
this is interesting...I can push my marginal bracket fabrication skills to the max and see if I could figure out some sort of mount off the motor mount
Is that a crack in the upper shock mount or just a shadow in the picture.
Not that I see - just ugly factory or PO welds. Some pieces of welding wire stuck in there and gaps etc. The mount still has OEM style rivets so guessing it's never been messed with.
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Renegade ll
Julius Vatalaro
James is that round piece of metal going to be strong enough to support the crossmember. On the computer it seems pretty thin?
Ol Fogie
74 cj5 304, 1943 gpw, in moth balls,
X2, May be just what he has on hand, but does look kinda thin. If a little thicker tubing could be had I would agree it might be stronger. I would think that crossmember has lots of stress on it. Good clean looking job though. I know overhead welding is hard but I would be tempted to add a gusset or strap band under the tubing too.
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