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Why am I cutting out?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by MOP, Oct 12, 2004.

  1. Oct 12, 2004
    MOP

    MOP Active Member

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    While cruising at highway speed uphill (under load), my CJ5 is cutting out a bit. The first time I noticed it was while pulling a trailer up a long hill. It just kind of pops and stutter’s a bit. If I let off on the gas it will stop, but if I try to maintain speed uphill or accelerate, it cuts out. This is only at 55-60 mph, if I slow down it does not. I thought it was possible that my fuel pump was on it’s way out, so I changed it this evening, but that did not help. I have a new poly tank, all new fuel lines, and a new fuel filter.

    What else should I check? Or is the old Dauntless telling me something worse? Since my HEI conversion I have had the vacuum advance disconnected. Sparky (and I) rebuilt the 2G this spring. Besides that I don’t know what information may be useful.

    I appreciate any suggestions.
     
  2. Oct 12, 2004
    gte636p

    gte636p Member

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    mine was doing the same thing and had me dumbfounded for a while but i happened to find it one day. did you guys use loctite on the carb-base screws?? mine somehow worked themselves loose and the body was moving pivoting on the base. makes a nice little vacume leak when trying to push the jeep down the road.
     
  3. Oct 12, 2004
    MOP

    MOP Active Member

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    No, we did not use loctite. I will check that.
     
  4. Oct 12, 2004
    fourtrail

    fourtrail Built not Bought

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    Does the HEI distributor have a mechanical advance? If not you may not have enough timing. If it does, find a dial back to zero timing light and find out what the timing maxes out at. May either be to much timing or not enough.
     
  5. Oct 13, 2004
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Could also be fuel starvation, due to a dirty filter, weak pump or crud in the tank. The conditions you describe are when fuel demand is at its highest. An interruption or restriction in fuel delivery will make it act like the ignition was cut off untill the RPMs drop a little and then VAROOM! of you go again until you hit that magic RPM again.
     
  6. Oct 13, 2004
    Southtowns27

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    Definately sounds fuel related. Make sure all the fuel line fittings are tight. This happened on one of our racecars once... The suction line from the fuel cell to the pump loosened up at the cell. Air was making its way into the fuel system and caused a fuel starvation problem at higher rpm. It took us forever to figure it out. Also, when was the last time it got a good tune up? A bad spark plug could do the same thing to you.
     
  7. Oct 13, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Might be a good time to check your plugs just to see what's on 'em. Rule out plugs, fuel filter (or other collapse in the lines), air filter, and choke linkage. Those are cheap to troubleshoot. You've got a sweet CJ-5...hope all works out!!
    -Alan
    P.S. I took some great pics of you & Adam, at dinner, your Jeep, etc... but lost my camera only days later on the way home. :mad:
     
  8. Oct 13, 2004
    JohnyJeep

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    Floats might be a little low.
     
  9. Oct 13, 2004
    jd7

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    plugs or wires?
     
  10. Oct 13, 2004
    sparky

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    Tank's a new MTS.

    Plugs/wires are new with the HEI.

    I'm comfortable with the float level.

    I think it's fuel related, let off, float bowel refills...
     
  11. Oct 13, 2004
    MOP

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    Sounds like I will be underneath a dirty CJ5 this evening to check fuel connections. I will probably change the plugs for fun. Like Sparky said, the wires are new, entire fuel delivery system is new or rebuilt, air filter is new.

    I do agree that it is fuel related.... it feels just like one time in my grandpa's VW super beetle on the highway. I ignored the cutting out episode on my way somewhere, then had the fuel pump die on me a few hours from home on the way back.
     
  12. Oct 13, 2004
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

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    mine did about the same thing a while back. would cut out at higher rpm. replased fuel pump and haven't had the problem since.
     
  13. Oct 13, 2004
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Fuel pump was my first thought.
     
  14. Oct 13, 2004
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    check the carb gaskets. could have a slight vacuum leak @ low speed, and big leak @ high speed.
     
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    JohnyJeep

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    Check to make sure you have a vented gas cap if your tank doesn't have a vent.
     
  16. Oct 13, 2004
    Hippo393

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    I get cut-out in the first 2 minutes when I hit the gas unless I have the choke pulled.
     
  17. Oct 13, 2004
    James P. Enderwies

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    Fuel is something definitely to check. But, don't rule out the coil going out under load. Usually they die in 2 ways: 1-quit working all together, 1-start to fail under load.
     
  18. Oct 13, 2004
    MOP

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    The coil was new with the HEI, cap, etc in July, but I suppose anything is possible. I will try to rule out fuel first.

    Me too...

    If the amount of gas that spills out when I corner hard is any indication, I would say I have plenty of venting ;)

    Will do as part of my fuel system inspection over the next few days

    Mine too. Wish it would have been my last
     
  19. Oct 13, 2004
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    another thought, check the orings on the carb needles. might have a bad one.. :?
     
  20. Oct 23, 2004
    MOP

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    I have done several things and continue to have this problem...

    A quick question, if I want to re-install my original distributor to diagnose if the HEI (or some part of it) is to blame, is it a problem to leave the ballast resistor bypassed?
     
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