Value Of This Ramsey On Cl?

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  1. Jun 15, 2016
    FinoCJ

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    Daryl

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    Great little winch. I had one on my car trailer for years before I blew it up. With new imports at $300, these oldtimers sadly have very little value these days. I would be hard pressed to pay over 100.
     
  3. Jun 15, 2016
    jpflat2a

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    I have one on my Jeep.
    Used it a few times.
    Work price down if you can.
    I wouldn't pay $300 for any import...
     
  4. Jun 15, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    What, it's not a PTO? Really, a good winch will last for years. About 24 years on my Koenig PTO as far as I know. It was on it when I bought it so It may be 55 years old.
    The Warn M6000 is fine on the Commando after my 7 years of use.
    The price might be a mite high on this one. Show up with five Benjys and it would probably be yours.
     
  5. Jun 15, 2016
    wheelie

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    Put 250 in one pocket and another 50 in another pocket. You'll be carrying it to your truck. I'd trust this old Ramsey over any new imported winch from any company. Plus, your money will be staying right here in the good ole US of A.
     
  6. Jun 16, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    A few friends have Smittybuilts. On one, we're not even sure they soldered the wire in to the wire terminal. His sons friend had to jam the wire in and hold it to get the thing to work. The other friend had a solenoid stick so he ended up wrapping his CJ5 into a tree.
    A winch is a tool, sort of like any tool, get the best you can up front and it will show its value over the years.
    Back to your original post. Yes, about $250.00 for it but you could end up starting out lower and see how it goes.
     
  7. Jun 16, 2016
    FinoCJ

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    So I went to look at it and its being sold by a member of my local 4x4 club - I've met him once before in person briefly during an adopt a trail clean-up run, but mostly interacted with him through our web forum. Didn't walk away with it - but considering it. From what I know of his work on line, he likes old iron and does a nice job keeping old stuff working. So that gives me some comfort that the work he did to replace the solenoids was quality and it should be reliable. The mounting plate/bracket is set-up for a cj5 with angle plates on the end at the correct width to fit over the frame horns. The mount holes on the side of the angle plates doesn't seem to match up to the ones on my frame- but I think that might be more an issue with my PO drilling some random holes than what is correct. It makes it tough to figure out a good mount system -

    A couple concerns I have with the winch:
    1) there is a kink in the cable that I don't like - would be about $50 dollar for used replacement around here. They are common with lots of people swapping out to synthetic line, but factors into expense.
    2) the big one - the free spool seems odd. When the clutch is disengaged with the driverside lever and the cable pulled out - the housing on the driverside also rotates, not just the spool. Thinking its just got some gunk stuck up in there and needs some cleaning? Can that housing be easily removed and cleaned?

    As for price - he was willing to drop to $300 of his own accord. I'd be happy at $200 but don't think that is going to happen. $250 might work but then I still have some additional expense and work to do.
     
  8. Jun 16, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    Fino, good luck. A splice in a cable is bad unless it was done correctly and still not a good thing to see. I spent years splicing ropes together for friends and spliciing a steel cable is another matter. Tough on the fingers. If the wire rope is held together with a couple cable clamps it will cost you around another $50 or more for something to replace it if you want to do it correctly.
    On the good side,I believe the brake drum will revolve with the drum if the clutch is free.
     
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    SFaulken

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    I've got an REP6000, and the Spinning you're seeing on the housing is perfectly normal, that's how it's designed to operate.
     
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    FinoCJ

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    that is really good know - many thanks
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    They who Snooze, Loose.

    H.
     
  12. Jun 17, 2016
    FinoCJ

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    I gave him a $200 offer last night - he turned it down. I'll think about $250 offer over the weekend (traveling) - if its gone then it wasn't meant to be and if its around he might take it. There are a lot of things I've passed on and rarely regret it. A few of course but not many.

    It was good to talk to a club member for a bit when I went to look at it, but he holds pretty firm on his prices. I've tried to buy a few other things from him via our web forum, and haven't had success. Maybe I am just too cheap, and he's not necessarily looking to sell unless the price is right - he reposts things a lot. Its not a must have for me and I've already blown the jeep budget this year with the unexpected clutch and T14/D18 rebuild - which I am still trying to finish.
     
  13. Jun 17, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    Lay the green backs out on his hood and let him drool over them. I got a PTO box, winch and drive shaft for less than three hundred, but I had to drive to Evergreen to get it and had to help him get the drive shaft apart so it would fit in my car. It was for a 3B project that never got off of the ground and the winch parts are still hiding under my 53 Buick. Darn, I have enough parts to build another Jeep back there... Sorry, not much here for a CJ5 unless you count the front clip and parts to a half cab that my brother left here about 3 years ago.
     
  14. Jun 18, 2016
    PeteL

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    When I'm pondering a deal, I ask myself 'what will it cost me if I don't get it?'

    In other words, what are your alternatives? What will a wrecker cost the first time you need a winch and don't have one? Will you regret missing this, for a swing of maybe $50 bucks?
    What's your time worth, shopping/waiting for a better deal?

    I say do it, and then move forward with the next thing on your list...
     
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    wheelie

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    I'm thinking 250 is a square deal for a solid winch. Cables are easy to get and cheap, as you stated. Go get it, if he accepts.
     
  16. Jun 19, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    $50 bucks would be a cheap tow. Years ago we waited 2 1/2 hours to get a tow truck into the Needles district after a friend got run off of the road. The problem was that all of the beer is in his truck and it's about 100 degrees out there and his truck is tilted over at about a 45 degree angle. It was about a $200 tow years ago. As the tow truck driver told him, once the hook is on, I'm in control so don't do a thing unless I tell you to. I've had to tell that to several people I've winched out. Some listened, some didn't and made the job worse.
    If I ever charged for a winch job, My Jeep would have been paid for
     
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    wheelie

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    uncamonkey

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    I've already got all the crap I need from a few members here about my PTO VS electric winch choices. I have two Jeeps and three winches. About all I am going to say is that they could have wound up the cable better.
     
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    FinoCJ

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    There is a REP 8000 on local CL that I am trying to get info on - I would prefer the extra pulling power but not sure if its in running condition or not. May still revisit the REP 6000. Would probably use a snatch-block with the 6000 most of the time - both to pull out some extra cable and get to a lower wrap (more pulling power) as well as just doubling the pulling power anyway.
     
  20. Jun 21, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    Fino, the only time I've ever used a snatch block or blocks is to redirect a pull so you don't scratch up a vehicle with a cable or the direction we had to pull from wasn't right so we had to use a tree or trees. A 6000 lb winch would probably be fine for you. Just get a good one, can I say that again? Get a good one. None of that scumbag freight stuff. I think I can pull my 3B apart with the 8,000 lb one on it. Not a guess, I damn near did it once and had to repair it The Warn M6000 on my Commando will pull it up a 3 foot vertical rock face on a trail. It never said a bad thing to me while doing it
     

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