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The Official "What The Heck Is This?" Thread

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Focker, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. Apr 5, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Volvophilic

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    The few people who know what it is... I doubt they’re the ones I’d need to worry about. :)
     
  2. Apr 5, 2020
    Cap-n-Cray

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    Have you ask your wife yet? It her Jeep...
     
  3. Apr 5, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

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    I asked if she’d want a rifle rack in the Jeep.
    Her reply verbatim:
    “Why? No. That’s stupid.”
    :lol:
     
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  4. Apr 5, 2020
    Dphillip

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    “Why? No. That’s stupid.”

    Oh man that’s funny!
     
  5. Apr 15, 2020
    jeeper50

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    I have a garand that would look great in the rack, if ya got one and need to get rid of it
     
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  6. Apr 24, 2020
    Hunter Sturm

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    I'm currently in the middle of straightening out the tub for bed liner and new seats and such on my 56', and I made this discovery of what I had to work with for the passenger seat frame-


    uh oh. :cry:

    PO decided to botch the (rare, hard to find, expensive) seat frames to stick some fullback CJ7 seats in. His creation simply has hinges at the front that bolt into the toolbox, and then the sliders. And that is it. I don't particularly want to spend the money to buy original frames, as the whole jeep project is just to make it fun to drive, not restore. I was wondering if anybody had advice for what to fab up here, as well as how the passenger seat is actually supposed to attach at the back of the seat, as well as if anybody could give me the proper height from the front of the seat frame where the seat bolts to, to the top of the toolbox.
     
  7. Apr 24, 2020
    Buildflycrash

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    Did it work well before you took the seat off?
    I’m not sure I understand what is the problem.
     
  8. Apr 24, 2020
    Cap-n-Cray

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    Does the passenger seat tumble (bend in half)?...

    Can you access the tool bin as it is?...
     
  9. Apr 24, 2020
    Hunter Sturm

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    No, the sliders sit at a funny angle with the new low backs in, because the CJ7 seats are deeper, and the way these frames were built, makes it so the back of the seat is what hits the "stop" on the wheelwells. It also sits at a significantly lower height than the drivers seat.

    I believe that this would still work if I added a spacer of some sort between the slider and the rail that rotates, and would change the area that the new seat hits the "stop". I am just looking for the correct height to the mounting hole to see how much material would need to be added below the slider.
     
  10. Apr 24, 2020
    PeteL

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    If your "new lowbacks" are Smittys, I simply made frames like this for my '56 that look just like the OEM base. The passenger side fits in the original pivots.

    The answer to height is to set the rear as low as possible. Then shim up the front with spacers to give a comfortable angle. The distance under the steering wheel is the controlling factor.

    I see no need at all for a slider. Even all the way back is the minimum for legroom.

    CJ5 1957 driver seat mount for Smittybilt.  Custom copy.jpg
     
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    Cap-n-Cray

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    That's the driver's side... :whistle:
     
  12. Apr 25, 2020
    boopiejones

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    I currently have my passenger seat out. Here are pics of what my frame looks like and how it attaches. As for the rear, it doesn’t attach to anything at all. There is a post that sticks down on the left side and rests against the bed. On the right side, the frame rests on a little metal bracket bolted to the wheel well. CDD0E613-726D-4749-96D6-5B7B5F4440E4.jpeg ABB15FFA-C47A-4EFA-8213-ADFED9A3CD89.jpeg 50C47D4D-B91C-4BAA-B722-782CBFFA8652.jpeg
     
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  13. Apr 25, 2020
    Hunter Sturm

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    Thank you, the help is very much appreciated
     
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  14. Apr 25, 2020
    FinoCJ

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    Here is my quiz for the day...I actually removed this and am cleaning it up, so i know what it was being used for - no idea if that is original purpose yet....just thought it was kind of interesting - looks a lot like a spring hanger, but smaller, or lets say it would work for springs that were less than 1.5" wide:
    [​IMG]
     
  15. Apr 25, 2020
    FinoCJ

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    And I should clarify its off the wagon, not cj. Here is the rest of it:
    [​IMG]
     
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    Cap-n-Cray

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    Has something to do with the parking brake?...
     
  17. Apr 25, 2020
    timgr

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    Yep. I don't have any documents for the Utility Wagon, but the early Wagoneer is similar.

    EarlyWagoneerParkingBrake (615 x 426).jpg

    The bracket is the mount for the arm, somewhere on the frame or body.
     
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  18. Apr 25, 2020
    FinoCJ

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    Yea - its all parking brake stuff...the spring hanger looking bracket mounts to the rear cross-member and is the pivot mount for the lever - one end of the lever connects to the cable that goes to the pull handle in the cab/firewall and the the other end of the lever has the connection to the curved grooved bracket that connect to the v-cable that goes to the rear drums. When cleaning it all up, I just thought the bracket was kind of neat as it looked like a mini spring hanger....
     
  19. Apr 25, 2020
    Lockman

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    I thought it looked striking similar to a commercial door closer arm & pivot shoe ? :) Oh well , wrong again Pumpkin ! :shrug:
     
  20. Apr 28, 2020
    Hunter Sturm

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    Still new here so not sure if there was a better thread to put this in- apologize in advance.

    I'm pretty unfamiliar with what the factory rear bumper looks like on an early CJ5; but my 56 has had a rear bumper fabricated by a previous owner, and I noticed underneath, something that looked like what I thought the factory rear bumpers were. Out of curiosity, could anybody tell if this is the factory bumper that has been built over?

     

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