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Steering/tire Question

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by johnsotd, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Aug 9, 2017
    johnsotd

    johnsotd Member

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    1962 f134 fresh off frame build.
    I have 31x10.50x15 tires and a completely rebuilt Ross steering system from the knuckles up.
    It is very hard to turn the steering wheel when not in motion. Steers fine when driving. Are the tires too big or is this common with a stock system? The Jeep had 16" KH wheels that I'm about to sell unless what I have just won't work. Anyone have this issue?
    Thanks
     
  2. Aug 9, 2017
    Keys5a

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    Thats a lot of tire for a stock Ross steering system with 31/10.5. They were never designed for that big of tire. You probably are running a 7" or 8" wide rim? You might get away with it for a while, but it will likely wear the Ross box pretty quickly. Most early CJs with the larger tires convert to Saginaw steering for a reason.
    -Donny
     
  3. Aug 9, 2017
    1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, just fine. Un-powered assist steering is like that. Even if you have the size I am using mounted up. You have to be in motion (even really slow motion) to break the friction lock to be able to turn the wheels with any ease.
     
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    Danefraz

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    It on part is why the bus steering wheel is in the jeep. Armstrong steering can only overcome so much. Then you have to think back to the basics, (as I learned then any way)... it needs to roll a little to get the wheels to turn. Often, power in one direction, turn toward the goal, then just clutch in, feather the brake and roll back in the other while to turn to match it...
     
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    Snouts out

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    Keep the 16"& go with NDT tires. They work good off road, not so good on road!
     
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    Rick Whitson

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    When I bought my 64, 143 it had 8.5 X 15" wheels and big tires on it. It was hard to drive, and went into the Willys wobble. I put 15" X 7.5 wheels and 750 X 15" tires on it with a steering stabilizer kit, and it drives like a different Jeep. I don't Mud Bog, or Rock crawl, just forest view on fire trails, and cruise on back roads, so I guess it depends on what you want to do with your Jeep. Good Luck what ever you choose to do.
     
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    PeteL

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    When I learned to drive, it was considered very poor practice to even try this.
     
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    Glenn

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    Exactly!
     
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    mickeykelley

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    X3. And if you have an asphalt drive, on hot days you will grind up your driveway leading to pits, standing water puddles, etc. I been telling my kids for years to stop grinding the tires on MY asphalt. And shut the damn door so I'm not air conditioning the world, oh and if they had to pay the electric bill around here, they'd turn off the damn lights. Whoa, I'm beginning to sound like my dad.

     
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    PeteL

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
    "When I was your age, we had to make our own asphalt!"
     
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    Glenn

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    X2 on that one. :coffee::)
     
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    colojeepguy

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    My Jeep has 31x 10.50 15 tires and I ran the stock Ross setup for years. It was tough to turn unless you were stopped, then it was dam near impossible. But I'm with the others, I don't turn the steering wheel when at a stand still unless I absolutely have to...on any of my cars!
    I remember the first (& last!) time my ex tried to drive my Jeep, the first thing she asked was "how do you unlock the steering wheel? "
    :lol:
     
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    Framer Mike P

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    My Dad also taught me not to have my thumbs inside the steering wheel...
     
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  14. Aug 9, 2017
    johnsotd

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    Thank you, thank you, thank you. I will learn to live with it and maybe one day I will install Saginaw steering.
     
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