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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by nolehynaws, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Feb 9, 2020
    nolehynaws

    nolehynaws Member

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    My cj5 has the 4 cyl f head, it'll start and run from anywhere from 1 second to 5 seconds, but it quits every time. I took out the fuel line going into the carb and turned it over and fuel came out of the line when I first turned it over so I guess the carb is getting gas... any ideas? Thanks!
     
  2. Feb 9, 2020
    PeteL

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    Does it die when you release the key from the "crank" position? (...assuming it is not a foot-starter.) Try a hot jumper wire to the coil input. See if it keeps running then... possibly a problem with the key switch or the ballast resistor?

    And/or/also, the carb may be getting gas, but is the float valve letting enough gas into the carb bowl? Sticky float?
     
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  3. Feb 9, 2020
    nolehynaws

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    No, it runs for a few seconds and then gives up. And what do you mean try a hot jumper wire to the coil input? I'll check the float and stuff again but i think it's okay... Thanks for the help!
     
  4. Feb 10, 2020
    PeteL

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    Sometime an engine will run only while cranking the starter. If you provide twelve volts positive directly to the coil terminal that the ignition switch feeds to, it will bypass the switch and the ballast resistor circuit and allow the engine to run - if that is the trouble.
     
  5. Feb 10, 2020
    scoutpilot

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    Turning it in small increments, turn the steel idle stop screw in until it does run. It shouldn't take much. Then when it is running, look down the throat of the carb for excessive fuel flow. I should be dry after a few minutes. Are you using the choke?
     
  6. Feb 10, 2020
    Walt Couch

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    Have you had it running after you changed spark plug wires? If so what was the last thing you changed or repaired?
     
  7. Feb 10, 2020
    nolehynaws

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    Okay I'll try that!
     
  8. Feb 10, 2020
    nolehynaws

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    Yes, it ran after that. I set the valve lash, took off and cleaned carb, and put in a fuel filter, I don't think I did much else.
     
  9. Feb 10, 2020
    BadGoat

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    Either the fuel filter is restricting fuel delivery or something is off in the carb after it's cleaning. I'd bypass the filter first to eliminate that.

    Mike
     
  10. Feb 10, 2020
    PeteL

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    Air leak under the carb?

    You didn't lose the check ball/weight from the carb accelerator-pump circuit when you cleaned it? Many people have.
     
  11. Feb 12, 2020
    nolehynaws

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    I ran the line directly into a cup with gas, and it still didn’t run for long.
     
  12. Feb 12, 2020
    nolehynaws

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    I can check! I’ll probably take the carburetor off again.
     
  13. Feb 12, 2020
    Glenn

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    Can you restart it immediately after it dies? If so can you do that multiple times? Does it seem to run good during that brief time?
     
  14. Feb 12, 2020
    PeteL

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    X2
     
  15. Feb 14, 2020
    John Gedde

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    Get a can of starting fluid or a squirt bottle with gas in it. Start it then try to keep it running with spraying fuel or starting fluid into the carb throat. If it stays running that way, it's confirmed you have a fuel issue (or possibly a gross air leak into the manifold) and not any sort of ignition/spark issues My guess is fuel flow into the carb or an issue with the needle/seat in the carb. The latter is my vote since I've seen an inordinate amount of stuck needles in various ATVs and power equipment due to white corrosion caused my modern fuel.

    If you use starting fluid, be careful! That stuff is positively explosive. If you're using gas, make sure you have good aim and don't spill fuel.

    John
     
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    Glenn

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    Issues like this one are when a second person can really be a big help with solving them. One to start it and one to try to keep it running.
     
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    PeteL

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    Also because too much can damage your engine.
     
  18. Feb 15, 2020
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    Cheapest helper you can have. You don't even have to by him beer
     

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    NCRenII

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    While sorting this out also check the basic grounding of the ignition circuit. I've had similar issue solved loosening and tightening grounds. Also insure the points lead (from coil) is not shorting or close to ground.
     
  20. Feb 15, 2020
    nolehynaws

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    It’ll start again if I put some gas in the carb. But I don’t know why it’s not getting gas, because when I disconnect the line that goes into it from the pump and crank the engine, some gas shoots out...
     

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