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Source For Dash Vin Stickers

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by 70sVintagePreferred, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. Dec 25, 2018
    70sVintagePreferred

    70sVintagePreferred New Member

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    Does anyone know of another possible source to get the dash vin stickers besides bear creek survey or if bear creek will be able to offer vin stickers again? went to go check their site today and it says they are no longer able to print stickers. i really need mine, i can already tell im going to have issues registering my jeep without a readable tag on the dash that has the vin and the front and rear GVWR on it.

    i dont want any answers telling me to go try to talk to the dmv, highway patrol or whoever- im a state licensed inspector, the system is computerized where i am and it will reject the safety inspection if all the info on the tag is not readable. if i try to fudge it it will throw up a red flag and place a lockout on my inspectors license which is not good for work.

    I REALLY need to find a way to replace the vin decal on my dash..
     
  2. Dec 25, 2018
    TIm E

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  3. Dec 29, 2018
    ojgrsoi

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    why would you not use the vin tag on the firewall? The dash tag is more of a FMVSS sticker than the vin on the vehicle.
     
  4. Dec 29, 2018
    Twin2

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    the dash sticker only had month and year built and serial number . no weight information
    got mine from bear creek . but that was years ago
    you had to order sticker and email information to him
     
  5. Dec 29, 2018
    ojgrsoi

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    True. These aren't like the FMVSS decals on newer vehicles.
     
  6. Dec 29, 2018
    maurywhurt

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    If Dataplates4U can't make the sticker you need, I may have a workable solution.

    If the sticker on your Jeep is like one of the VIN stickers on Bear Creek's site: CJ5 Forum Decals

    ...it would be relatively simple to download that image, and change the manufacturing date and VIN in Photoshop to match your Jeep's info. I'll be glad to help you with this part if you don't use Photoshop.

    Once you have a high-res digital image for your VIN sticker in hand, you could either send it to one of the many online custom vinyl sticker / decal printing websites, or have one printed locally. As an example, here's a decal I made and had printed for a Delco battery: Vintage Delco Battery Topper & Decal

    Let me know if I can help.
     
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  7. Dec 30, 2018
    maurywhurt

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    (continuation from my post immediately above)

    I started messing around with this a bit today just to see how it would turn out. After some experimentation, I was able to pretty closely match the font for the date and serial number that Bear Creek used on their reproduction decals. I'll post an example soon.
     
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  8. Jan 1, 2019
    maurywhurt

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    (continuation of my previous continuation....)

    Well, it turned out my wife didn't want to take down the Christmas tree and decorations today, which allowed me time to obsess further about the idea of re-creating a Jeep VIN sticker.

    After gathering a bunch of photos of examples of real 1969-75 Kaiser and AMC VIN stickers, I realized that I had taken the wrong approach in my last post above. The goal should not be to match the layout and fonts from Bear Creek's versions, but rather from original stickers. Toward that end, my latest effort is below.

    This is a photo of a random original AMC Jeep VIN sticker in the format used during 1972-73:

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    For comparison, here's the version of this format Bear Creek offered:

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    Below is the re-creation of the original VIN sticker I developed in Photoshop. This is a new format laid out from scratch. While it's not a precise re-creation of the original sticker, it is as near as I could come to that.

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    The fonts took a good deal of time to try to match, and are as close as I could find to the ones Jeep used. A font similar to the one on the machine-generated, line-printed portions was especially hard to locate. I finally found one that's very close, though not identical to the original. (To help give the impression that those portions were printed on the sticker by a line printer, they are in 85% grey, rather than black.)

    Note that on the original, there's a clear border around the printed area of the sticker. To match this, the border shown in white would actually be clear on the finished sticker.

    This uploaded version is low-res, but I've made a high-res template for this VIN sticker format. There are several additional formats I haven't had time to re-create yet, but I'm now confident it's possible to do so with a fair degree of accuracy.

    I also believe I may have found a local printing company that can create stickers with the clear border.
     
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  9. Jan 1, 2019
    Oldriginal86

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    That looks awesome. Bet the purists would have a tough time telling it from an original.
     
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