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Shocks on a Bantam

Discussion in 'Jeep Trailer Tech' started by MOP, Sep 21, 2005.

  1. Sep 21, 2005
    MOP

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    Hey Boyink..and anyone else. Do you have pictures/specs on upper shock mount brackets I could add to my Bantam so that I can install shocks? I read on the Bantam Trailer group page where people had used M416 brackets but no pictures that I could find.

    I already noticed it bounces pretty good and would like to stop that a little.
     
  2. Sep 22, 2005
    jpflat2a

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    for the lower mount I cut the head off of a bolt and welded the bolt (stud really) to the spring plate, much like what the Jeep uses.
    The upper mount, hmmm, will have to look in the am, don't recall
     
  3. Sep 22, 2005
    Boyink

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    Hmm...I remember seeing some pics but don't know where they'd be.

    IIRC they were pretty much just a block that mounted into the frame, with a stud coming out.

    I've a extra set of spring plates from Dutch I set aside meaning to do the bantam shocks too...just another unfinished project... :rofl:
     
  4. Sep 22, 2005
    sparky

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    Would TJ/YJ/XJ/ZJ bar pin eliminators work?

    I can get you pics of a 416 bracket.
     
  5. Sep 22, 2005
    MOP

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    What are they???? I guess I'll search for a pic. Reproduction CJ5 upper spring mounts are available..so I guess I should also crawl under my JEEP to see what they look like. Pics of the underbelly of the 416 would be appreciated. Or, I may swing by and take a look tonight if you're up for it. I am already kinda heading out in your direction to do some trap shooting.
     
  6. Sep 22, 2005
    sparky

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    I'll be around tonite.
     
  7. Sep 22, 2005
    sparky

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  8. Sep 23, 2005
    schardein

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    I have a 416. The shock mounts bolt to the frame rail at 2 places. they basically "box" about a 4"-5" section of frame and have the mounting pin sticking out. I can get some pics if needed. Let me know.
     
  9. Sep 23, 2005
    John A. Shows

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    Seems like if you could add shocks to your trailer then you could add air shocks as well. Might help out if you loaded the trailer heavy and wanted to raise the load up some. Maybe take some of the pressure off the springs.
     
  10. Sep 23, 2005
    MOP

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    Thanks for the offer Greg...I got too busy to swing by Sparky's last night, but I am gonna make it there this weekend. I can imagine the basic setup, but I really want to measure how far out the stud should extend to match the spring plate lower shock mount stud.

    Another question (that will probably be answered when I take a look at the 416). On our CJ's, the spring plate has the mount to the outside, but this would not be possible on the bantam I presume. I guess I could just switch the plates to have the stud to the inside? Or turn them upside-down?
     
  11. Sep 23, 2005
    jpflat2a

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    shocks on mine mounted as shown
    plate welded to frame for upper mount
    threaded shock mounting pin bolted to plate
    bolt with head cut off welded to spring plate for bottom mount
    Monroe Magnum 60 shocks (old)

    edit: don't recall if that plate for the upper mounts was factory or I added it for the shocks; welds look clean, couldn't have been me :rofl:
     
  12. Sep 23, 2005
    MOP

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    Thanks for the great pics. Looks like I'll have to get the shocks in hand before and welding.
     
  13. Sep 23, 2005
    jpflat2a

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    actually
    I'd wait till the mounts are done and then measure :shock:
    If I recall, the shocks that fit were CJ fronts anyway :p
     
  14. Sep 23, 2005
    jpflat2a

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    if it helps, my pins measure 14 1/2", center to center, with trailer full of camp gear
    ymmv
     
  15. Sep 23, 2005
    schardein

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    Just got in and read the posts. Here are some pics. If you need bottom pics or measurements let me know. The one shows the mounting bolts for the bracket from the outside.
     
  16. Sep 23, 2005
    schardein

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    ohyeah and like Jim said the right shocks are flat fender fronts. At one time I had a pair of rs9000s extra and put those on. BLING!
     
  17. Sep 23, 2005
    sparky

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    I figure we can get measurements in person off mine Greg. ;) :beer:
     
  18. Sep 24, 2005
    MOP

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    Why??? I don't really follow. If I weld the upper mounts where the cj front shocks are at ~1/2 travel wouldn't that work?
     
  19. Sep 24, 2005
    jpflat2a

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    yes.
    I just thought it would confirm the length of shock you need.
    I suppose if you were off 1/2" either way, won't make much difference.
    I would be more concerned about collapsed length than extended; you don't want to bottom the shocks out
     
  20. Sep 24, 2005
    MOP

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    Hey Jim, is the top of your upper shock mount just welded to the bed of the trailer? I can see the bottom, but not the top in your pic.
     

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