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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Zoomer, Dec 20, 2002.

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  1. Aug 26, 2009
    lgreve

    lgreve Renegade all the Way

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    1. VIN #? 8305017 365492
    2. Month/Year of manufacture from dash tag? June 1970
    3. Model year registered as? 1970
    4. Factory Front Shackle Reversal (Yes/No) (Early CJ5's came with the front axle shackles to the rear)? no
    5. Model 25 or Model 27 front axle? Originally 27
    6. Snorkel Cutout on hood (Yes / No)?not sure but think not
    7. Windshield Frame Configuration (top mounted wipers, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass flat, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass arched)?Bottom Wipers All edges of windshield curved but top of windshield is flat i think
    8. Large or small front turn signals?Large Front turn signals
    9. Tapered or flanged rear axle? no clue but the rear end is a dana 44
    10. Underseat or rear mounted fuel tank? Rear mounted Fuel tank
    11. Hood mounted reflectors, front fender mounted markers, no markers / hood reflectors?no markers or hood reflectors
    12. Windshield washers?yes i think but i will have to check
    13. Single / Dual stick transfer case?Single stick
    14. Paint and Trim codes?could not find any but i believe it to be a Renegade I painted purple due to multiple reasons
    15. Battery box cover on cowl?No
    16. Bow sockets on rear body corners?not entirely sure what this is
    17. 12V / 6V?12V:v6:
    18. Foot starter button / key start?Key start but i am not sure if that is original or my dad added it
    19. Wiper (1 or 2) manual or electric?2 wipers electric
    20. Hood safety latch / prop rod?Both

    if anybody could help me find more information on how to determine if i do in fact have a renegade. it had the 10 leaf front springs and 12 in the rear and both the oil pressure and amp meeter gauges to the left of the steering column. it was also painted purple originally with the Renegade I sticker on the hood and the white steel wheels. i remember seeing one or two pictures of it when it was new.:v6:

    any help would be greatly appreciated
     
  2. Aug 26, 2009
    Zoomer

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    Thanks for contributing.

    You might want to start a new thread with your question ragarding if your Jeep is a Renegade I. It sounds like it from your description, but it is often times dificult to know for sure as it was not shown in the VIN. A list of items included in the Renegade I / II packages is here:

    http://www.earlycj5.com/history/the-462-renegade-i-and-ii-cj-5s/

    Do you have a paint / trim tag on the firewall?
     
  3. Aug 27, 2009
    lgreve

    lgreve Renegade all the Way

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    no unfortunately that is long gone from what i could tell unless it is located under the battery tray. but i think that i saw a picture that showed that it was above the tray.
     
  4. Sep 4, 2009
    jeepboy71

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    Here we go...... Paint code my 71 Renegade I is 226, Trim code is 340, and the VIN is 8305017366928. My Jeep is licensed and titled as a 1971 with an August 1970 build date
     
  5. Sep 22, 2009
    Chaplain Curley

    Chaplain Curley New Member

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    VIN # help

    Hello everyone. I am brand new to this site, and hoping somebody has an idea what year my newest aquisition to our farm is. I traded a tractor for this old cj5 with a super nice hydraulic snowplow setup for our drive ways. I was told it is a 1960. It has not been on the road since 1994. The tag on the firewall shows # 5754886113. It seems that one number is missing, as I cannot find a listing on the internet with anything near these numbers. I want to get Farm Vehicle plates for it. I am in snowy western NY, snowbelt area. Any help would be great Thanks in advance. Curley
    I would submit a picture of the jeep, but I am not sure how.
     
  6. Sep 22, 2009
    Walt Couch

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    I see it as a 59. You should be able to find another vin on the top of the frame about at the rear spring hanger area passenger side. Might be another on same side at rear of frame. The front one should be visible by sticking your head inside the fender area.
     
  7. Sep 26, 2009
    SmokinIdahoan

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    1. VIN #? 8305017 354724
    2. Month/Year of manufacture from dash tag? ?
    3. Model year registered as? 1969
    4. Factory Front Shackle Reversal (Yes/No) (Early CJ5's came with the front axle shackles to the rear)? no
    5. Model 25 or Model 27 front axle? Dana 27 Axle
    6. Snorkel Cutout on hood (Yes / No)?no
    7. Windshield Frame Configuration (top mounted wipers, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass flat, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass arched)?Bottom Wipers All edges of windshield curved but top of windshield is flat i think
    8. Large or small front turn signals?small Front turn signals
    9. Tapered or flanged rear axle? no clue
    10. Underseat or rear mounted fuel tank? underseat
    11. Hood mounted reflectors, front fender mounted markers, no markers / hood reflectors?no markers
    12. Windshield washer? no
    13. Single / Dual stick transfer case?Single stick
    14. Paint and Trim codes? unsure
    15. Battery box cover on cowl?No
    16. Bow sockets on rear body corners?not sure
    17. 12V / 6V?12V
    18. Foot starter button / key start?Key start
    19. Wiper (1 or 2) manual or electric?2 unsure for originality
    20. Hood safety latch / prop rod?no prop rod - just side latches
     
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  8. Sep 28, 2009
    Lumpcreek

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    1. VIN #? 8305 188511
    2. Month/Year of manufacture from dash tag? No tag.
    3. Model year registered as? 1966
    4. Factory Front Shackle Reversal (Yes/No) (Early CJ5's came with the front axle shackles to the rear)? No
    5. Model 25 or Model 27 front axle? Model 27.
    6. Snorkel Cutout on hood (Yes / No)? Yes
    7. Windshield Frame Configuration (top mounted wipers, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass flat, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass arched)? Top mounted wipers.
    8. Large or small front turn signals? Small?? Approx 2.75" diameter.
    9. Tapered or flanged rear axle? Not sure. Dana 44.
    10. Underseat or rear mounted fuel tank? Under seat.
    11. Hood mounted reflectors, front fender mounted markers, no markers / hood reflectors? No markers.
    12. Windshield washers? None now. Don't know originally.
    13. Single / Dual stick transfer case? Duel.
    14. Paint and Trim codes? None found.
    15. Battery box cover on cowl? No.
    16. Bow sockets on rear body corners? Yes.
    17. 12V / 6V? 12V.
    18. Foot starter button / key start? Key start.
    19. Wiper (1 or 2) manual or electric? Looks like 2 vacuum.
    20. Hood safety latch / prop rod? Safety latch, no prop rod.


    This is my first post. From what I can tell, my CJ was built in Feb. 1965, but finished/sold in 1966.
    This forum is a great source of information. Thank you all.
     
  9. Oct 3, 2009
    golfer01

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    Hello all, I recently purchased a 1965 Tuxedo Park. It is apparently very original but has gotten a warn overdrive with the second od lever. It also has a Ramsey electric winch model DC9-1 8000lb. 4 cyl. It has the 60/40 seats. Anyone in the Rocky's want to trade the winch for a snow plow?

    Here's what I know so far;

    1. VIN #832214113
    2. Month/Year of manufacture from dash tag?Unknown
    3. Model year registered as?1965
    4. Factory Front Shackle Reversal (Yes/No) (Early CJ5's came with the front axle shackles to the rear)? Not sure
    5. Model 25 or Model 27 front axle? Dana 27
    6. Snorkel Cutout on hood (Yes / No)? Yes
    7. Windshield Frame Configuration (top mounted wipers, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass flat, bottom mounted wipers with top of glass arched)? Top mounted, flat glass
    8. Large or small front turn signals? Large
    9. Tapered or flanged rear axle? Not sure, Dana 44
    10. Underseat or rear mounted fuel tank? Under seat
    11. Hood mounted reflectors, front fender mounted markers, no markers / hood reflectors? no reflectors
    12. Windshield washers? No
    13. Single / Dual stick transfer case? Dual, but added later I thnk
    14. Paint and Trim codes? Tag gone
    15. Battery box cover on cowl? No
    16. Bow sockets on rear body corners? Yes
    17. 12V / 6V? 12V
    18. Foot starter button / key start? Key Start
    19. Wiper (1 or 2) manual or electric? Electric added later
    20. Hood safety latch / prop rod? No

    Will include pics shortly
     
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  10. Oct 8, 2009
    vortec

    vortec New Member

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    questions about vin

    a nabbor gave me the lil thing and i need to know all i can before i put it in the woods
    i don't want to tear it up if it is something special

    i have 2 Cherokees so i know a lil about stuff

    i need the vin decoded as good as i can

    8305 206364


    thanks
     
  11. Oct 8, 2009
    sparky

    sparky done Staff Member Founder

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    Have you tried to decode the VIN with the PDF in this thread? They're pretty simple. :)
     
  12. Oct 10, 2009
    dilltherese

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    Just picked up what looks to be a 1964 cj5, made in sept. 1963 VIN 8305 163470 top mounted wipers electric, cut out for snorkle, tank under seat, twin stick transfer case,
     
  13. Oct 11, 2009
    golfer01

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    I have what is supposed to be a 1965 Tuxedo Park Mark IV. Although the first four numbers indicate a Tux (8322), the sequential numbers (14113) indicate a much earlier Jeep according to the VIN tables in the pdf file unless the Tux's were different.

    The frame numbers are hard to read but appear to be 00714113. Any idea's on this? And yes, I have looked at the pdf file.
     
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  14. Oct 11, 2009
    Zoomer

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  15. Nov 8, 2009
    70 CJ5

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    Mine is a 70 and vin # 8305 c17 358928
     
  16. Nov 10, 2009
    brwesi

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    I have recently purchased what I believe is a 1965 CJ 5. After researching this forum, it seems to be numbered a little different. The serial number tag on the firewall is Kaiser and the number is 8405 26970. The serial number above the right front spring hanger is 26970. The engine number on the block at the water pump is 4J389233.

    The wheel base is 81.5" and the windshield frame is 59" wide. It has a Hurricane F 134 engine, 3 speed transmission, dual stick range and 4x4 selector and a pto driven Koenig winch on the front.

    My understanding is that 8405 indicates CJ6, which is a longer wheel base than a CJ5. Am I missing something?

    Thanks!
     
  17. Nov 12, 2009
    btraines

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    I bought my Jeep cheap no title. I was told the jeep was around 64. After some research I found it to be around 1969. The vin plate under the hood reads Kaiser 83050152619988 which I verified it with the frame vin. I think the last solid Vin recorded was Jun 67 with SN: 233064. I added 20,000 to each year and I think my jeep is a 69. I don't think it's a 1970 because it has Kaiser written on the plate. AMC bought out Kaiser at the end of 69 of early 70. Did Kaiser name run for a time after it was bought out by AMC? My goal is to find out what is the true year of my Jeep so I can request the appropriate title and restore it to factory "Museum standard". Thanks for your time, Brian
     
  18. Nov 12, 2009
    Hawk5274

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    Thanks Zoomer,
    I checked the plates on my 56 Willys CJ5 last night and wrote them down seeing the info. you gave is great. On my serial number I thought there was a five (barely readable) before the numbers I could read and your info. confirmed it.
    serial #57548 44884.:flag:
     
  19. Nov 12, 2009
    sparky

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    I thought the purchase was Feb. of 1970? I don't have time to check right now though.
     
  20. Nov 12, 2009
    $ sink

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    Re: !! See this thread for VIN questions !!

    the Kaiser name remained on the vin plates at least until Feb 70, but I thought the buyout was in late 69.

    your vin is a spring or summer 69 build
     
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