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Ross Steering

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by Donnie, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Feb 11, 2019
    Donnie

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    I have a lot play, what parts do you think I need to replace
    Cheers
     
  2. Feb 11, 2019
    TIm E

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    Three most likely culprits are...

    1. Bellcrank - pivot on front frame cross member in front of the engine.
    2. Tie Rod Ends
    3. Steering Sector in the steering box

    Have someone work the wheel back and forth (in the "slop" range) while you watch for worn parts and sloppy movement.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Do a search here for "death wobble", lots of discussion on this.
     
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    garage gnome

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    There is an upgrade for the bell crank that you can do.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2019
    Donnie

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    How hard is it to upgrade to the Saginaw for my 68 cj5
     
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    Oldriginal86

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    So hard there is a thread dedicated to it. Just kidding a bit. Many of us with limited knowledge and tools have done it with the advice from the experts here.
     
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    garage gnome

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    Jw60

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    Check kingpin bearings and wheel bearings while your in there.
     
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    maurywhurt

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    Here's what I think you're probably referring to, Garage Gnome: This Mornings Machining Project

    Mcruff built one of these for my brother-in-law's '67 after the Ross box had already been rebuilt. The upgraded bellcrank eliminated most of the remaining play in the steering system.

    As Tim E indicated, before you start making repairs or upgrades, it's best to have someone work the steering wheel back and forth while you watch the various components to help you identify where the slop in your particular Jeep's steering system is.
     
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  11. Feb 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM
    Donnie

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    does anyone know what size of shaft my 68 cj5 would be, iam thinking its the 1 1/8
     
  12. Feb 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM
    TIm E

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    The bellcrank shaft on the cross member in front of the motor or the sector shaft in the steering box? If a V6, the sector shaft would be 15/16". Bellcranks varied quite a bit, that might be tough to guess without taking it out and measuring.
     
  13. Feb 16, 2019 at 6:05 PM
    Donnie

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    its the v6 dauntless
     
  14. Feb 16, 2019 at 6:21 PM
    oldtime

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    I have an OEM NOS 1-1/8" steering bellcrank kit.
    Fits 1971 Dauntless CJ
    PM me if your interested in it
     
  15. Feb 17, 2019 at 7:32 PM
    Donnie

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    i found a old but new bell crank in my parts, i have a lot of slop in the steering and i think its the bell crank, i started taking the old one off and was wondering how to get the ball end off.
     
  16. Feb 17, 2019 at 8:58 PM
    TIm E

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    In the end of the drag link (rod that goes from steering box to bellcrank), there is a threaded plug with spring and cup...usually a cotter pin securing it as well. It has a large flat screwdriver slot so you can unthread it. This will allow the rod to be separated from the ball.
     
  17. Feb 18, 2019 at 6:55 AM
    Donnie

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    Do I take that slotted plug all the way out
     
  18. Feb 18, 2019 at 7:02 AM
    Rick Whitson

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    Welcome from Michigan. No you just have to loosen it until the ball will come out of the hole, it should fall out when loose enough. I would replace both ends of the drag link while you have it off. If the bell crank moves up and down, put a kit in it too. Someone makes a tapered bearing Bell crank for C J 5's that looks great, I would consider one. I replaced my Ross steering on my 64 with a 66 donor Jeep Ross steering, The 66 is a bigger steering box, and it only had 27K miles on it, I rebuilt the drag link, and the bell crank, and the tie rod, and added a steering shock. My 64 134F head drives as good as new as far as I am concerned. Good Luck.
     
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