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Repro 3B tubs?

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by ABN82MP, May 1, 2007.

  1. May 1, 2007
    ABN82MP

    ABN82MP New Member

    Orrville, OH
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    I'm looking to replace the tub on my 3B. The PO had it listed as "Solid". I guess his idea of solid differs wildly from mine. After a 7hr drive I was shown a mechanically solid 3B with a BEAT tub. It was full of filler, spray foam insulation, and patch panels (even used a cut down RR Xing sign to patch the driver's floor). None of this (except the RR sign) was visible in the pics I was provided.

    Regardless I put it on the trailer and drove home slightly dissappointed.

    My question is...which is the better buy when it comes to repro tubs? I have a dealer acct with 4wd Hardware and can get an Omix tub on the cheap. I've heard these are not the best quality though.

    Then there's the reworked tub available through W/O. I thought I read a buildup thread on this BB about a W/O repro horror story though.

    Finally there is dlbensinger.com. His kit would be the furthest away from me as the other two are w/in 2hrs driving time. As it stands now though this is the way I would like to go.

    Does anyone have any opinions on any of these?
     
  2. May 1, 2007
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    If the tub is generally good overall, but has some bad places, you might be able to just replace some panels. Give these folks a call and see if they can help you out. The website's got problems, so get the phone number and call them. http://www.jeepanelsplus.com/ All made in the USA.
     
  3. May 1, 2007
    ABN82MP

    ABN82MP New Member

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    It's way beyond that. I was hoping I could just weld in a few new panels, but I think once it's blasted it will be too far gone
     
  4. May 1, 2007
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    Might be surprised. Put up some photos here so da boyz can check 'em out. Where are you located?
     
  5. May 1, 2007
    1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

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    How thick is the stop sign/floor board panel?
    I need new ones both driver and passenger sides, and there are a couple of handy signs at each end of the block that most people ignore anyway, unless the motorcycle cop is sitting under them. In a school zone, yet!:twisted:

    and do you measure from the lip behind the gastank, or in front of the tank?
     
  6. May 1, 2007
    Avacado Mist CJ5

    Avacado Mist CJ5 Sucker for a CJ

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    For what it's worth, my buddy just had a body from Bensinger delivered. He claims to have a couple of guys living near the Juan factory to assure best fitup in the industry.
    Goods- all there, including removable plates. Stamped Willys, primed, and even came with OD green paint.
    Bads - no pedal cutouts (odd, given the claim), and he's got to cut off the old tool mount brackets and weld it onto the new tub.
    Looks nice, I'll shoot photo's and report progress, if anyones interested.
     
  7. May 1, 2007
    runnamuck

    runnamuck look out!

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    imo, get an aluminum 3a tub an add some pieces in just like they did back at willys. the two aluminum tubs i have seen are far and away better quality than the repro steel.

    they both have common drawbacks, like petal holes, body mount holes, yahda, yahda, yahda
     
  8. May 2, 2007
    1963cj5

    1963cj5 Member

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    Sent pm.....
     
  9. May 2, 2007
    Bill F

    Bill F Finally running

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    all the tubs are made by the same company so go with the place you can get the best price
     
  10. May 2, 2007
    timgr

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    The aluminum ones might be different, but correct about the steel tubs.

    They all come from MD Juan in the PI: http://www.mdjuan.com/index.php
     
  11. May 2, 2007
    Gwillys

    Gwillys 1953 CJ3B

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    Yes send some pictures, we like pictures. I will be replacing the tub on my 3b this summer as well. As for getting an aluminum 3a tub and adding peices, that would be nice but the hood hight still wont match.
     
  12. May 2, 2007
    Gwillys

    Gwillys 1953 CJ3B

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    Just looked at dlbensinger.com and the stuff they have looks good. Its also in Pa which is a lot closer than most other places. I may even be able to drive up there and pick the body up myself.
     
  13. May 2, 2007
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    I've got the repro 3B tub. I got mine from Walck's 4WD since he had the best price. I did the holes and fitting myself. I'm totally satisfied with the repro tub.
     
  14. May 2, 2007
    jayhawkclint

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    I'd be willing to bet they just drop ship from the distributor.
     
  15. May 2, 2007
    ABN82MP

    ABN82MP New Member

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    I was told by my rep @ 4wd that they ship Omix tubs to W/O. Seems kind of odd, but I don't know why she would lie about it.
     
  16. May 2, 2007
    runnamuck

    runnamuck look out!

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    the hood hight was what i was refering to as to add pieces in. only diff. in frank's 3a and my 3b tubwise is were metal was added between were the tub side meets the cowl to match the hood to clear the f-head. though it does have a different firewall and dash but that shouldn't be a problem a little welding can't fix. shouldn't be hard to do, but maybe i'm wrong but thats what i'm doing. if they could do it with 1959 tech then i'm sure i can do it with today's tech.
     
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  17. May 2, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    As was said before - there is only one, 1, count 'em ONE place making replacement steel Jeep bodies.

    Since there is only one manufacturer, it stands to reason that WO is getting the same tubs as everyone else.

    WO is just taking those tubs and re-working them in an attempt to make them more bolt-up.

    Disclaimer - yes, I did their website, but no - I'm not a customer. I was there a couple of times and saw some of the re-work being done. On this particular tub the gas fill was off by 1" and was being moved.

    Edit - or are you saying that WO is buying tubs from 4WD? Wouldn't surprise me...
     
  18. May 3, 2007
    ABN82MP

    ABN82MP New Member

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    Yes. I am saying that my commercial sales rep says 4wd sells Omix tubs to W/O which I thought was odd.
     
  19. May 3, 2007
    Boyink

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    Doesn't surprise me. WO and 4WD are pretty close geographically - so WO can probably go pick the tubs up. From WO's perspective it's the same tub...and who knows what lead time (or minimum purchase) issues are.

    While I was there WO was calling Walcks for stuff too...someone needed something in a hurry and they couldn't get it through normal channels.

    I think it happens alot in small business - you at times work with your otherwise-competitors to take care of your customers.
     
  20. May 3, 2007
    chasm

    chasm New Member

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    When I did my homework for my 3A tub, I found out that all of the steel ones were M D Juan, as stated above. I also found out that WO gets the same tubs and goes over them and corrects the problems that they have like missing parts, hat channel, steering column & brake holes and so on. Basically, WO saves the buyer a lot of work, but they have to pay for it!

    If the M D Juan 3B tubs are anything like the 3A tubs, you can absolutely plan on things being missing or a little bit off. But, knowing they are all the same factory, just shop for price and plan to spend some time correcting the problems! Shipping may be your biggest price factor. Mine was shipped from Georgia and Krage Motorsports had the best price at the time. You'll just have to do your homework!

    Some things to look out for: Transmission hole out of alignment. Gauge holes out of round. Tailgate hinges missing. Gas tank brackets missing. Top bow brackets missing. Hat channel out of place.

    There is a good thread going over on the CJ3A page about the tubs. Hope this helps a bit!:)
     
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