Project: What Did They Do Here?

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  1. Mar 7, 2017
    centexan

    centexan New Member

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    Good afternoon folks, my name is Frank and I am the proud new owner of a 1967 CJ6. Glad to finally have a jeep after so many years of wanting one. It's in pretty decent shape but will need work. First thing I want to tackle are the brakes. At some point in it's life a PO moved the brake pedal from the floor to the firewall. To compound matters, they left the clutch as it was so now I have a the clutch going through the floor and the brake pedal (from an automatic) under the dash. The master cylinder is leaking in the cab so I would like to replace it. I am going to guess that the pedal assembly came from a newer jeep, say a CJ7 but I have no way to verify that. I have enclosed some pictures in the hope that you folks might be able to figure out what I have so that I can correct it or fix it. Would it be worth it to move the pedal back under the jeep or fix what is there the right way. I have thought about going ahead and finding a complete clutch and brake pedal assembly and moving the clutch up as well but don't know if that would be feasible. Last picture should be the 2 sets of hood latches! Any reason that might have been done? Thanks for your help in advance!

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  2. Mar 7, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    That brake setup is definitely Bubba'd, I would not drive it like that.

    Dual brake / clutch firewall setups are quite doable & quite popular, try a search here on "firewall brakes" or "hanging pedals". Normally this is done with the aim of installing power brakes- there will also be some work involved with a hydraulic clutch release conversion.

    The dual sets of latches are an old school trick fro driving in rough terrain, they tend to keep the hood anchored better, especially if the hood hinge pins are getting a little worn down.

    Nice looking '6. :)

    H.
     
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    Jeepenstein

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    Easy now, I at least moved both pedals to the firewall, granted they were pirated from a 1959 ford dumptruck but..

    Bubba :D
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Bubba See, Bubba Do. :D

    H. :)
     
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    Twin2

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    welcome frank . looks like a good start
    things get changed by PO . but you do have choices on how to proceed
    hanging pedals or back to stock
    do I see a chevy small block

    want to see bubba pedals CAM00366.jpg
    both pedals on left of column . awkward . working on going back to frame mounted
     
  6. Mar 8, 2017
    centexan

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    Thank you, I think I did pretty good actually. Time will tell for sure as I get further in to it. You do indeed see a small block chevy. It is a 267. First time I ever heard of it but it runs pretty good! Single barrel carb and supposedly when running right can get 20+ mpg. We'll see if that's true or not.
     
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    tarry99

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    Check that..........more than likely a 265............built in 1955-56
     
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    wasillashack

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    It could be a 262, 265, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350, or 400, all have been produced by Chevy at one time or another. 265's typically had no provision for a screw on oil filter at the base of the block, they had an external filter mounted on a bracket.
     
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    Mark Wahlster

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    267 were made 79-82 used in mid sized chevys like Malibus and El Caminos decent little SBC
     
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    jzeber

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    I actually added a hanging pedal for the brakes but left the clutch in the original position through the floor. I really like the AA chain clutch set up I have and it works great. I did use a 1/4" plate to mount the MC to. I had a 1/8" plate before but there was way too much flex. I am using a Cherokee booster and MC.
    The way the above is set up is scary!
     
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    centexan

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    I would love to see pictures of this if possible. I really want to straighten this out and start driving it! Additionally, what pedal did you use? The one in there now pushes the steering column about 3-4 inches to the left.
     
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    jzeber

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    I used a Cherokee m/c and booster from late 1980's. I used a plate on both sides (in and out) and sandwiched the firewall. I'll post a pic or two.
     
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    jzeber

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    20170309_212957.jpg 20170309_213008.jpg 20170309_213017.jpg 20170309_213153.jpg The The primer brown colored steel is the plate (orange is the original paint as far as I can tell). 1 inside and 1 in the engine bay.
     
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    centexan

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    Focker

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    How about now?
     
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    ITLKSEZ

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    I also run the stock through-the-floor clutch pedal and mounted a swinging brake pedal on my 3B. My design won't help you though because my roll cage goes in the engine compartment through the firewall, and my MC is attached to that.

    But the one thing you might find of interest; I used the stock pedal, just flipped upside down.
    It's some shameful hack-job fabrication from 20+ years ago, but it's held up and worked fine.

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    centexan

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    Haven't had much time to do much wrenching but did get a few parts that it was missing. Looking more complete at least. Leaning towards reverting back to the original pedal configuration for the brakes. I need to figure out what I need and get it ordered. That could change subject to availability. It's leaking from the transfer case. Was going to try out the 4wd today but could get one of the lockouts to turn and didn't want to force it. Spent some time under it the other night and MAN is it rusty under the tub. The frame looks good so far as I can see. Chasing down parts in my spare time. Going to need a driver's side seat frame for sure. Also went to get it registered in my name today only to find out that I will need to get a bonded title, even though it did come with a title - too many owners between when it was last registered and now I guess. There was a error in assignment that was old. Guy said bonded title was the easiest and best way to do it. I've been down that road before so I'm ok with it. Hope to change out the fuel pump later this evening.

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