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Pictures Of Lilly, My 59 CJ5

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by baldjosh, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Nov 23, 2017
    baldjosh

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    Before the dip I would like to open all the oil gallery holes but I'm having a real tough time getting some of the plugs out. I have soaked them with penetrating oil and used heat and I feel like I'm just going to wind up tearing the stupid thing off.
    any hot tips?
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  2. Nov 23, 2017
    45es

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    Ask the machinist to remove the plug(s) prior to the dip. He will have the tools and knowledge to get it out.
     
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  3. Nov 24, 2017
    Muzikp

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    No idea, you are way deeper than I have ever been as well... keep going :D
     
  4. Dec 12, 2017
    baldjosh

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    not much of an update, this morning i loaded all the engine parts up and dropped them off at the machinist's. couple weeks ago he wasnt so busy...today he so busy!
    looks like it will be @ a month till he can tank and magnaflux, and then there will be a better picture as to how to proceed. Im OK with the wait, i can save some Jeep $ up to pay for it.
    I did realize once again what a ding-dong i can be, probably should have had the engine checked out along time ago, like before i started in on all the other stuff...its kind of an important piece in the puzzle! oh well, live and learn, or in my case live and continue being a ding-dong:)
    fingers crossed...
     
  5. Dec 31, 2017
    Danefraz

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    great thread. Love the color combos. It works. Following along. I love the way you found it.

    I hear from my powder coat guy that 'cleanliness is godliness'. He power washes everything I take, then blasts it, then uses something like acetone to wipe things down with prior. Occasionally, he'll pre-bake something that seems suspicious to make sure it's clean.

    Having a 'pity party' is only that when it's 'poor me' - not a note about the 'SHTF, and I'm beating it down, look at this great momento I now have.'

    A lot of us have similar (plus or minus) broken bones / long visits to the veterinarian, etc. My mind still says 'hey, hold my beer, watch this' but my body is finally smart enough to pause for just a second or two to let the 'idea' sink in, usually scored against the potential 'pain index to come'.

    We have members here that share tribulations of similar moments (fall out of a deer blind, crash an ATV / dirtbike / etc.). All that. No pity taken, none offered.
     
  6. Dec 31, 2017
    Hellion

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    Rat Fink wouldn't have it any other way.

    I do hereby cast my vote for gloss gray on the engine, matching what's left in the before shots. Have to admit I love the industrial world's propensity for painting engines in light, cheery colors.... so one can quickly pinpoint fluid leaks...(y)
     
  7. Feb 24, 2018
    baldjosh

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    It's been a bit but I haven't been completely idle..I think waiting to hear back from the machinist left me with a “why do anything till I know” attitude, hard to get motivated.

    I was originally planning on doing it all in one long stretch, Medical bills and the inability to work have changed the course of this project…
    If I'm gonna drive and enjoy Lilly then a beach jeep its gonna be for a while...I can get back to cosmetics in the future…I hope to at least get the mechanicals squared away nicely.


    Still haven't heard from the machinist on engine condition.:sleep:

    I did drag out the brake lines and reran them,,,all but one short line i didn't have but figured it must... led to a spot on the frame forward of the drivers side engine mount. There must have been something there to split it all...i dug around for a long time through boxes of parts id stripped off along time ago, nothing...frustrated i hit the google and interweb search engines for a pic but nothing, i think this site had them but all i got was image not available...photobucket really screwed alot up. Howard had called it a “fluid distribution block” i think.

    I headed to the FLAPS and we made up a block out of two Ts that would do the job and got the short line i was missing. Went home to fit it and decided to find the bolt that would have mounted the original block and there in the bag of bolts from that area of the frame was the brass “distribution block”:bananatool:
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    I know this is an old and scary set up but i want to rebuild it to as close to stock as i can before i upgrade to anything remotely sensible.
     
  8. Feb 24, 2018
    baldjosh

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    Not sure why... but i decided to start on sheet metal next. I AM NOT A SHEET METAL GUY!
    Im gonna learn alot and screw stuff up...so be it. The lower panel of the rotten windscreen is more rotten than the rest so that is where i start.

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    The rest is very serviceable minus the channel for a soft top. I do want a bikini top in the end so i will have to figure something out to repair. It is completley rotted down the connecting length of it holding on at the ends only.
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    What kind of top do these channels and door mounts go to??? On another thread i saw similar...Meyers?...any one want them???


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  9. Feb 24, 2018
    baldjosh

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    I was able to cut/break spot welds that weren't already gone with a razor blade held with pliers and smacked with a hammer...i forget the technical term for this form of steel separation…”razor and hammicus”...the rest i ground out and peeled away.

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    Bought a piece of steel from the local steel place, i went for the thicker Gauge because that would make it more difficult and is completely unnecessary .went to work using my metal topped workbench as a brake...not even gonna put pics up showing how that worked out… well ok.


    DSC07460.JPG DSC07461.JPG DSC07462.JPG everything distorted pretty bad...well there I go!
    Couple days later im heading back to get another piece and i swing by my buddys yacht painting shop for a cup of coffee and there in the scrap pile is metal shelving for the scrapper… already has a 90 perfectly bent and the gauge is closer to the original!!!
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    Mind you i only have a jig-saw with metal blades so its not pretty but third times a charm and im good with it. DSC07457.JPG DSC07458.JPG
    need to strip the paint a bit more for welds and grind a few off spots but I think it will work.
     
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  10. Feb 24, 2018
    baldjosh

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    Now what??? I have a stick welder, im no good at at it, and the tin on the windscreen is rusted out thin..
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    A couple days later I get a call from another friend who“just bought a mig welder, Huh...funny how that works sometimes.:bananatool:
    So now ill get the rust on the inside treated and then see how much damage i can do with a welder...ive been reading up on here all the great advice especially the practice part...im really bad it that part...love to just jump-in....i will try and be a good boy
     
  11. Feb 25, 2018
    baldjosh

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    CRAP!!! this morning I had some time to kill rust...I acquired a sample kit of a rust killer used on commercial marine applications...tugs and such. overkill...hell yeah, free...hell yeah.
    nothing free is ever really free
    DSC07471.JPG Its a 2 part 1 to 1 epoxy and is supposed to be the bomb-ski. its fairly cold today, low forties, product went on thick like a gel. did I do a small test area?...ooooh that would have been smart!
    Nope I coated the whole inside of the windscreen and soft top channel. in 30 minutes it should kick off...5 hours later it has just run and puddled all over the place and no sighn its gonna do its thing. I called my buddy to confirm what I had done was OK, his only thought was the temp...so a bag and heater...
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    we will see in a while if it kicks, but even then I'm sure I'm gonna have trouble with grinding this stuff off for the areas to weld...its super thick and if its as bomb proof as I'm told...
     
  12. Feb 26, 2018
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    If you can get it in your area, try Skyco Ospho. Seems to work pretty good on stuff I've tried it on. Surface prep for it would be cleaning up the loose debris and spraying it on.
     
  13. Feb 26, 2018
    baldjosh

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    bad joo joo this week, block is cracked, that is all...
     
  14. Feb 27, 2018
    browncoat

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    Bummer, any thoughts on what you will do?

    How hard is it to find the right period engines in the US, it would have to be easier than down here.
     
  15. Feb 27, 2018
    baldjosh

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    time to find another block, or engine. ill place a WTB ad here. The machinist and a Buddy know a couple guys local to ask but im not hopeful. probably gonna have to take a drive in the future to fetch one.
     
  16. Mar 9, 2018
    Danefraz

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    Any luck on your heavy iron search?

    How'd the rust-gel-goop turn out?
     
  17. Mar 9, 2018
    baldjosh

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    I actually just got back yesterday from a road trip to pick up an engine, took it down to the machinist this morning and he didnt see anything to awful (it was in pieces for the most part)
    i need to pull the camshaft and a few tid bits and ill take it back down and we will see...fingers crossed

    the rust gel goop is a big ole mess...thats what i get for just going crazy and not testing...oh well, itll clean up, i just added some extra work to the process...live and learn.

    The engine i found out, when there, came out of a truck... I notice the dip stick is not in a filler tube like the CJ...ive been looking around to make sure there wont be any problems bolting it up before i continue. the seller didnt know what year or much about it other than its an F134...any reason to worry or are they all basically the same? ive got the #s from the block.
    passenger side says...SD 806278 12
    drivers side has a small "plate" that has...1 14 D

    I didnt pay alot and got some extra parts i need in the deal so i hope it will be OK but the extra parts will ease the pain if not
     
  18. Mar 27, 2018
    baldjosh

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    i spoke with the machinist yesterday...good and bad...2 cylinders are cracked but they can be sleeved... everything else looks good :beer:so things are moving forward. i drug the parts from the original motor down to him and he will pick the best of all out of the two. now that it looks like my engine woes are over (except for the $) i have no excuse to sit around waiting...time to get back to prepping and powder coating.
     
  19. Apr 24, 2018
    baldjosh

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    Was going to try and get a little more done but had a big upholstery project fall into my lap...couldn't say no.
    I did receive the master rebuild kit a couple weeks ago...I'm very pleased with it, all US made except pistons which are Mexico
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    Got it from Northern auto parts...$250.00 cheaper than rock autos O/A Chinese stuff, shipped quick and good customer service on the phone...Highly recommend them
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    The upholstery project is for a 1972 Mercedes van...looks like a large Volkswagen transporter, 2 buckets, three benches, and a big ole mess... the jeep has once again turned into a work/storage bench
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    Engine should be ready to pick up soon so I'm hoping to wrap this up...the van is super cool, ill get some pictures when done and put them up to check out
     
  20. Apr 25, 2018
    Muzikp

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    (y)(y)(y):clap::clap::clap:
     

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