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My Title Says 1959 Willys Cj

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Arlen, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. Apr 29, 2017
    Arlen

    Arlen New Member

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    I really have no idea tho, it was a ranch Jeep so it's been "modified" a bit. The dash is plastic and so is the windshield.
     

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  2. Apr 29, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    What you have there is a few different pieces of jeep- the tub is definitely from a military M38A1, the dash looks like it came from a CJ5 model built in the 60's known as a Tuxedo Park.

    Mix'n'match jeeps are not uncommon so you're in good company. :)

    H.
     
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    Arlen

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    The dash is a piece of 1/4" plastic they didn't even bother to use metal.
     
  4. Apr 29, 2017
    cadwelder

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    I agree: M38A1 tub and CJ5 dash but am eager to learn what feature makes the dash a Tux dash.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    My mistake :oops:- I thought I saw a cutout for the column shifter.

    H.
     
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    timgr

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    Cool .. M38A1 tub. Make what you want of it. Feel free...
     
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    cadwelder

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    No problem, Howard, I'm the King of mistakes. :D
     
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    Glenn

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    It does have a cutout. Since it is plastic maybe they copied a Tux dash?
     
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    gunner

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    Full floater in the rear- maybe from an MB?
     
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    Glenn

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    The windshield frame is the newest style with the curved at the top glass. From '69 or newer. It definitely needs glass, not the plastic you mentioned.
     
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    PeteL

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    Military frame too, I think I see the machine gun mount on the crossmember.
     
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    Framer Mike P

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    I think the mb full float axle is a model 25. The rear axle in the picture looks like a model 44 to me - and it does look like its a full float.. Also there is a u bolt missing - be careful moving the Jeep around.
     
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    Keys5a

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    That dash looks home-made, maybe a little taller that Cj5, but not as tall as an A-1. I think that is a full float axle with like a 27 spline drive hub. The A-1 tub looks pretty solid, and it looks like a civvy F134 in there.
    All in all, looks like a good start!
    -Donny
     
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    PeteL

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    Dana 23-2?
     
  15. Apr 30, 2017
    Alan28

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    When I look at pictures, it is more 1870 :confused: than 1969, but with some efforts :whistle: it can become a good Jeep...:sneak:
     
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    looks like a good start . does it still have VIN tag on firewall
     
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    Arlen

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    I'm not sure it hasn't made it all the way to my driveway yet. It's sitting in my parents driveway on the trailer 3 hours away.
     
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    gunner

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    The full floater in the MB and early 2As was a Dana 23-2 but pretty much all the guts of it are interchangeable with the Dana 25. It has 10 spline shafts.

    It looks like a Dana 44 from the partial picture. I think it's possible to take an axle shaft from the 23-2 and slide it into an early M38A1 Dana 44, also with 10 spline axle shafts. Mid '54 went to 19 spline? My A1 has a 2-54 delivery date and has 10 spline shafts. You'd have to machine the hubs and all, of course. I've thought about doing this except that the 10 spline shafts just aren't very strong- no stronger than a 25, probably. But it would give you a flanged full floater for cheap. And maybe a locker back there would strengthen it (just guessing on that)

    I had the 23-2 in my 45 2A and with the L head never had a problem with the axle shafts
     
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    Arlen

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    You could've written that in French and I would have about the same level of understanding. I took that pic because someone said they could tell what it was if they saw the under side of the rear. Here is a better pic of the axle.
     

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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Short form- you have what could be / looks like / potentially may be a Very Good axle and is, at worst, a Good axle. :)

    H.
     
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