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Looking For A Picture Of Renegade Slots

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Daryl, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. Jul 26, 2016
    fctex

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    Bring on the pics!!
     
  2. Jul 26, 2016
    WYOMIKE

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    Sorry, did not notice this until today.

    The only markings on the inside are "AMERICAN RACING EQUIPMENT K.A. (71) MADE IN ENGLAND"
    They did use mag tpe lugs with a washer, not conical lugs. The holes are straight, not tapered like conical need.
    This picture was taken within a couple of weeks of me buying it and shows the original tires also. (not a great picture, sorry)

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    This is a close up of the rim

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    And this is a copy of my sales contract:

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    If you need anything else just let me know.

    Thanks
    Mike
     
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  3. Jul 26, 2016
    Keys5a

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    Well, we have just confirmed that D-slots take shank type lugs with washers, as well as "American Racing Equpment, Made in England"
    I love how you traded a '48 CJ2 when you bought the Renegade.
    Thanks Mike -Donny
     
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  4. Jul 26, 2016
    WYOMIKE

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    One thing you might notice is the Korning PTO wrench on the front. It came off my 48 CJ2 before I traded it in. It only took me about a hour to take it off my old jeep and bolt on my new one. Always thought that was pretty neat that you could take something off a 23 year older jeep and it would bolt right up to something newer. Sure wish Jeep had kept doing things that way.:(
     
  5. Jul 26, 2016
    Daryl

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    Thank you for the answer. Always amazed at the depth of knowledge and information on this forum. I am also amazed at the internet myths that so often are disproved by facts.
     
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    So lets muddy the water up a little bit......this is all according the factory parts manual FWIW
    It's true, the correct V6 Renegade slots will use the acorn type lug nuts...however...
    According to the parts book, the 72 and later V8 Renegades use aluminum slot mag (Spirit ?) wheels that use the tapered lug nuts.
    So from my 3 minute analysis, it's possible to see CJ Renegade mag wheels advertised that use tapered lug nuts.
    Clear as mud ?
     
  7. Jul 26, 2016
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    never noticed van ;);) must have been distracted by lady in red . jeeps in photo too :rolleyes:
     
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    Well that doesn't help at all.:D I'm so confused. What are you calling acorn style lug nuts. To me, that means a tapered lug nut with outside enclosed. So, you're saying the parts manual says that a V6 Ren II uses the acorn lug nut, which debunks what WYOMIKE, an original owner, says....that his had the shank and washer type lug nut.

    Then 72 and later used just a regular tapered lug nut. Not an acorn style.

    I just started thinking we had it figured out that '71 RII had the shank/washer type......which led me to figure that '72 and later probably used the acorn style with the sausage slots. I dunno. I'm lost. :confused:
     
  9. Jul 26, 2016
    Keys5a

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    Well, this muddy pond got me searching for more answers. To me, acorn lug nuts are the ones with an enclosed head, either tapered or shank/washer style. I have seen the shank/washer lugs somewhere in the parts catalogs, but can't find them again to verify the application. Just because the parts catalog lists the acorn lugs, that doesn't mean they have to be tapered. That why I am looking for the shank/washer pieces above to compare part numbers.
    I dug out my earlier Parts Catalog (W-1195-R1 dated December 1, 1970) to see what R1 parts are listed and found guages, reflectors, rollbar, and "speed stripes" (decals). I'm sure there are more, but I have to search for specific parts. There were not any 15x8 wheels listed which I find interesting.
    We know the R1 used steel 15x8 KH wheels, and thanks to Mike, the R2 used what I call D-slot alloys with acorn shanked /washer lugs.
    I know the later AMC V8 Renegades used an oval/sausage slot alloy that used taper seat lugs. This may be what the parts catalog calls "Spirit" wheels.
    To answer Jim's question, it depends on which Renegade alloy wheel we are talking about as there are at least two different ones; the V6 D-slot uses shanked/washer lugs, and the later V8 oval slot uses tapered lugs which originally were acorn style, though regular hex lugs work too.
    Does this help clear thing up?
    -Donny
     
  10. Jul 26, 2016
    Daryl

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    Not to mention whatever wheels that any individual dealer went down to the local tire store and put on to look like what was on the Jeep sales posters.
     
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    About 3 years ago, I found a set of wheels in a town up on the Canadian border. Started a thread on it and WYOMIKE helped there as well. The wheels I found were exactly like Wyomike had- D-slot, American Racing, Made in England, etc. The guy selling them only would say they came off a jeep.

    Sold them to a guy from Seattle who had his Dad's (original owner) RII in original purple/plum. The wheels finished off the restoration.
     
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    OK. I'll buy that explanation, Donny.
     
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    WYOMIKE

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    Did not know there were so many different types of lug nuts, it starting to make my head spin:confused::confused::lol::lol:
    One thing I do know for sure is that I have seen 3 RII's that I know for sure were original, mine and 2 others back in the early 70's and they all had the same wheels and lugs. And in 72 when AMC came out with just the plain" Renegade" there wheels were different and different lug nuts. Can not remember just what that difference was for sure:confused:

    If anybody is interested here are some pic of what mine look like:

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    Stud holes:
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    Hope this has been of some help.

    Mike
     
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    Interesting thread concerning the wheels.



    Would love to see those pictures of the light blue R1.
     
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    Thanks Mike. I believe several of us are interested so, it's all welcome info. I didn't think the centers of the RII wheels were as they are. They seem different than the later Renegade wheels from what I can see in your pictures. I don't see a raised rib that goes around the rim just beyond the lug hole area.
     
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    not to get off subject , but I have never seen a aluminum wheel that didn't take shank lug nuts
     
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    Daryl

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    I just picked up a set of 5 for Norcal69. Part of the reason for this thread. Trying to figure out if they were actually original Jeep wheels.
     
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    There is no raised rib surrounding the lug face on the D-Slots, but there is a raised rib on the outer face by the bead. The later generation Renegade ('72-up) has a bead around the lug area, but not the rim face by the bead.
    One more detail to confuse us!
    -Donny
     
  19. Jul 27, 2016
    Keys5a

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    I assume you got these when they were taken down from CL. Your price was great, and I am 99.9% you have the '72-up Renegade wheel-still very desirable even though this was the much more common variety.
    -Donny
     
  20. Jul 27, 2016
    Daryl

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    There are no markings on them at all only a part number 3153604 and Forged. His uncle picked them up today to try and avoid shipping charges. I thought $200 for a set of 5 was alright. Normally I woulld only pay aluminum scrap for wheels like these as it is so easy to get burnt.
     
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