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Kayline tire carrier help needed

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by w3srl, Sep 6, 2005.

  1. Sep 6, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl Semi-retired in Florida Staff Member

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    I just scored a never-used swingout Kayline tire carrier for my Jeep. It appears to be complete, down to the bolts to hold the rim onto the mount, but one thing puzzles me: It came with only one angle bracket, presumably to go behind the rear crossmember to add some support. Is there supposed to be two of these brackets, or only one? If there is only one, does it go on the pivot side or the latch side?
     
  2. Sep 6, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    the Kayline swing-out rack mounts to brackets that attatch to the body; there were no brackets or need to mount anything to the rear crossmember IIRC.
    do you know the model of carrier?
    "TCC-Universal" should be for all CJ models
    got a pic of the bracket in question?
     
  3. Sep 6, 2005
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  4. Sep 6, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl Semi-retired in Florida Staff Member

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    Sorry, no pics just yet. This is definitely a Kayline unit, it still has the manufacturer's stickers on it. And it has just two mounts, one on either end of the swing-out bar that runs parallel to the rear crossmember. It pivots on the passenger side, and has a spring-loaded latch on the drivers side to lock it into place. in the center it has an inverted-U piece of round tubing that serves to mount the tire, with an adjustable plate assembly to actually bolt to the rim. There are also two protruding square tubing stubs on the swing-out bar, ostensibly to add Jerry-can mounts. One of these is on each side of the tire. Clear as mud?
     
  5. Sep 6, 2005
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    You might call the Specialty Top Co. in Denver at 303-487-9939. They bought the old Kayline Top company, and are still making them.
     
  6. Sep 6, 2005
    Gump

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    Is it one of these? I threw it out 2 years ago before I knew of early Jeep sites. (Note my collapsed gas can from coming down to 7K feet w/o opening the can):D

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  7. Sep 6, 2005
    ethansen

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    Had one of those on a '71 I had, it does mount to the cross member and it should have a backer behind each side. IIRC it used two bolts per side? The one I had did have alot of wiggle in it though.
     
  8. Sep 6, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    I have a complete box of Kayline NOS brackets w/instructions for the TCC Universal carrier. I will go look thru the box and see if what you describe is inside.
    From your description, it sounds like a later model Kayline rack for '76 and later CJ's, which is when the design was changed.
    the early rack had "baskets" for the two cans to sit in; and an adjustable tire mount "box" which was adjustable for tire/rim width and looked simliar to the factory side mounted tire carrier.
     
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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    this is how the 75 and prior Kayline racks mounted
    on both corners of the body
    no provision for crossmember
    do your brackets look anything like these shown?
     
  10. Sep 6, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl Semi-retired in Florida Staff Member

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    Thanks Jim, but not even close. This rack mounts 100% to the rear crossmember, with no body attachment at all.

    I made a call out to Kayline (or the company who bought them out, anyway) today and I spoke to a guy who knew exactly what I had, but wasn't sure if they even still had the prints or any documentation at all for it. He said that the company pretty much cleaned house and trashed a LOT of old stuff when they took over. :rofl:

    It's not a big deal, really. I know I can engineer a set of brackets that will work, it is more a matter of knowing what was supposed to be there in the first place. Thanks for looking!
     
  11. Sep 6, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Kayline also made external swing away tire mounts for XJ Cherokees that mounted the way you describe
    I have one of those also
    I'll go look and check that design out !
     
  12. Sep 6, 2005
    MOP

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    Thanks for the images guys. I have the TCC Universal and just learned a few things. In fig 2 of Jim's image it shows a plate above the backup light that was never mounted on mine (preference of original owner I guess). I think I will install a similar plate to keep the adjustment bolt off of the body, where it has been rubbing for a few decades.
     
  13. Sep 7, 2005
    Fhead Guy

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    I have one of the lash ups you describe. There are indeed 2 crossmember mounts required. I've not mounted it yet on Percival because the holes in the new cross member don't line up quite right with the frame rails. Not sure whether it is a QA problem w/ Kayline or the new crossmember. Nice rack whowever, but I'm sure it will rattle a bit.
     

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