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Junkyard TBI

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jayhawkclint, Apr 10, 2008.

  1. May 5, 2008
    green71jeep

    green71jeep work in progress

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    No you do not need to run two sensors technically the motor should be the same from side to side as long as there is not a problem.
    Although you can run two sensors if you want Megasquirt can handle two but one is just fine.
     
  2. Aug 16, 2008
    jayhawkclint

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    I've never probed the tach signal on the HEI. I guess my initial thoughts are, does the HEI send a signal once for every revolution of the rotor, or once per revolution of the crank? I.e., the difference between CPS signal and TACH signal might be 2:1.
     
  3. Sep 24, 2008
    jzeber

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    Anyone know what years Chevy TBI will work? I found a 96' advertised as a TBI but I thought Chevy went to TPI in 96?
     
  4. Sep 24, 2008
    Wmi68CJ5

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    tpi in 92 back to tbi in 96
     
  5. Sep 24, 2008
    jzeber

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    Thanks, I found a 96' with a rod through the block. He has everything I need. I just want to make sure it will work on my EF 231 and negotiate price.
     
  6. Oct 31, 2008
    Wmi68CJ5

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    Mcruff, did you ever make any of these? I am interested if you have or will be. Pm me if you are.

    Todd
     
  7. Oct 31, 2008
    jayhawkclint

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    Actually, they went to something called CSFI in '96. It is easy to mistake for TBI because it has an intake with a throttle body on top, but inside the intake is a set of injectors, one for each port, not swappable to another valley.
     
  8. Nov 1, 2008
    cutter

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    Quote:
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    I have a tach running from the tach output on my GM HEI odd fire dist. Since it's normalized for a tach i figure i can use that for an rpm input on a regular cpu.

    You will need a tach filter to smooth out the signal for the 5V ref. for the ecm. If you are just going for fuel only control.
     
  9. Nov 1, 2008
    Wmi68CJ5

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    Yes. They basically moved the butterfly from the front of the intake back to the top like a normal engine.
     
  10. Nov 1, 2008
    cj6/442

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    I'm a puss. i think I'm to scared to piece together a efi out of a junk yard. if some one could sell me a kit .I would go this way .is the MS system way out of line$$$$?and is it turn key? we just efi'ed my buddys early bronco and THAT was so easy. went to the yard opened the hood on a 5.0 lit mustang and pried off the 2bl intake.on his 302 . dump new stuff on and done.the jeep sounds like it wouldn't be that easy.
     
  11. Nov 1, 2008
    bkd

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    OK now you have my interest R)....would like efi on my CJ6, running a 289 in it....can you detail what the entire process was (parts needed/changes made) on the early bronco?
    Thanks, Jim S.
     
  12. Nov 1, 2008
    cj6/442

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    yes sure . I will get back to you . there are certain years of 5.0 that work you need . i will get you those years and post up here .later Jim. if I do that do I should start a new post ?
     
  13. Nov 1, 2008
    Mcruff

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    I have not but will be in the very near future.
     
  14. Nov 1, 2008
    Wmi68CJ5

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    Keep us postedmonkeys
     
  15. Nov 1, 2008
    EricM

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    this site might be useful:

    http://fordfuelinjection.com/
     
  16. Nov 2, 2008
    bkd

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    Zoomer

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    :lurk::drool:
     
  18. Nov 3, 2008
    ScottP66CJ

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    Are you looking for a kit for you r oddfire? If so you can buy a kit. They are available if you want to spend the money.
     
  19. Nov 3, 2008
    cj6/442

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    JIM.S -that is one of the sites and my buddy has one more .I'll see him soon. and yes I was looking for a kit , can you point me in a direction, so I can compare it to the stock GM astro 4.3 . I would think gm designed that efi for a bigger motor than the 225 and therefore low speed torque would suffer.not that it matters much T18/ texas d300/ 4:88. just hundreds of dollars for stock or ???? for a rtr kit.and question ,,,,I have 2 gas tanks do I need 2 pumps or can only 1 external pump be used.I'm new to this technology stuff. I like my 2gc never even had to rebuild it on the trail but there is this one hill that I'm trying to kick but it is just a little to vertical for a carb but efi would make it.
     
  20. Nov 3, 2008
    bkd

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    not sure I can help w/ a kit for a GM product (I'm a Ford guy)...was looking at holly 2 barrel projection...think most efi can be computer tuned for each application however. On the two tanks......the site link gave a good mag article link(a good read), they used a low pressure pump to puill gas outta the tank, then a high pressure external pump to get the pressure needed for efi...seems that could work for 2 tanks?...I'm in the same boat
    Bye the bye....looked at a 302 out of a 86 Bronco...harness/computer/sensors/motor (running) for $450.....doing some research to see if that would swap easily into the 6
    Good luck, Jim S.
     
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