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High Line fender mod on CJ3B ?

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by avmechanic, Sep 9, 2008.

  1. Sep 9, 2008
    avmechanic

    avmechanic Gearhead

    Langley B.C. Canada
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    Sorry if I hurt the feelings of the resto freak 3B owners out there but has anyone ever thought of the idea of building some highline style flat fenders to use on a 3B. I kind of like the fugly look of the 3B but it crossed my mind that it would look pretty cool with some highline modded fenders and either a 3A hood or a 3B hood with the sides trimmed to work with the fenders. It would look cool with some big swampers and a low lift. Might also have to trim the rear opening radius to work well together. I love the look of the modern TJ with the AEV highline fenders. It just crossed my mind as I know where there is a mint 3B grill and I need to order a replacement body for my CJ2A project anyway. It would give me plenty more hood hight for my 5.3 Vortec engine swap. I just like to be a little different sometimes,as well as I like a challenge. Maybe I will have to try some photoshop. What do you guys think?

    Greg
     
  2. Sep 9, 2008
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    I';m not sure how you would make the high-line fenders work on a flatty tub because of how the fenders attach to the cowl. Also, raising the fenders would cut into the engine compartment space in a big way. The 3B definitely has more engine bay height though.
     
  3. Sep 9, 2008
    jeeper50

    jeeper50 jeeps 'till I die

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    no restow freaks here for 3Bs! Do you have a website for the fenders? I'd like to see what they look like.
     
  4. Sep 11, 2008
    Willys3B

    Willys3B New Member

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    Yes actually I was thinking about it this morning. Great timing! I like the idea of getting a bigger tire in there without much lift. Open up the rear opening and push the tire back also. Not sure I would want fender flares out from the body quite as much as the AEV product though.

    I would love to see a photoshop of it.
     
  5. Sep 11, 2008
    trickpatrick

    trickpatrick Done? LOL

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    Cant say I am crazy about that idea having had a 3B but.

    Just a brain fart.
    Couldnt you just put a 2a hood on it.
    Take off the fenders.
    And make tube fenders that met the 2a hood.

    edit: somebody must have done this allready
     
  6. Sep 12, 2008
    avmechanic

    avmechanic Gearhead

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    I was thinking a 2a hood would work as well but I am not sure it is the same where it matches the cowl and sits on top of the hood. It does look like it is the same shape and close in dimension. Does anyone have access to the parts or vehicles to compare? The tube fender idea sounds good too. Tube fenders would be tough as nails. I think it would give the 3b a balanced and proportional look, give more room for an engine that is tall or mounted high for ground clearance, as well as allow for some good size tires, with only a little lift. It might help the little 3b get some love. I just like to get some gears turning in my head over some different concepts as well as initiate some conversation and though with others. I don't know if I will ever do something like that but I will be putting my chassis and drivetrain together for a year or so, so I have time to think about it before I pick up a repo body for my project.

    Greg
     
  7. Sep 13, 2008
    Xavi_4Wheeler

    Xavi_4Wheeler Diesel like a tractor

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    It's interesting.... any one can make a photshop.....?
     
  8. Sep 13, 2008
    Willys3B

    Willys3B New Member

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    So I went out and mocked-up a front fender on a 3b at a height that a 2a hood would put it at. It comes out at about the same level or slightly higher than the top of the rear of the body. Without moving the rear wheel well housing up the highest the rear wheel opening can be is about three inches below the top of the body.

    Having the front fender 3 inches higher than the rear wheel opening doesn’t look right to me.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2008
    mknittle

    mknittle jeep addict

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    Hey,
    I built a radiused break for the to make some wider front fenders.It fits into a 20 ton shop press:
    It is simple to make just angle and a tube. If you like, I'll send pictures. Got to go,for now! monkeys:coffee:
     
  10. Feb 5, 2010
    avmechanic

    avmechanic Gearhead

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    I found a picture of a 3b that someone has done a high line fender mod on just like I was thinking. It looks perfect. I don't like what he did for the back wheel opening though. I would have just moved the back wheel opening radius up and make it a bit larger. I may have to look for a 3b one day to try this on. A good way to have large tires with very little lift. This jeep is in the March 2010 Fourwheeler Mag. It is just a small picture with a writeup of a trail run in Wa****a. They say they are going to do a full feature on it in an upcoming issue. I think it looks cool. Sorry to just post the link, I can't seem to post the picture itself. Check it out.

    http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/misc...v-mx-jeep-park-and-trails/30362109/bailey.jpg

    Greg
     
  11. Feb 5, 2010
    duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

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    Pretty sure the cowl radius is the same on 2A, 3A, and 3B as are the hinge screw locations. I was going to use a 2A hood on my 3B back in 1975 but finally just decided to fabricate the whole hood. But it will fit and I don't think raising the fenders will cause any problems fitting the chevy. Ugly, perhaps, but I used just about every cubic inch of space under that tall hood and the 3B would certainly be my choice for another build.
     
  12. Feb 5, 2010
    PbBelly

    PbBelly delinquent miner

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    This thought crossed my mind a few months ago-I've been keeping my eyes open for a 3b bargain ever since. The front half of the one pictured is the best looking 3b I've ever seen-even better looking than I would've thought. I can't say I'm crazy about his treatment of the rear wheel openings though...something round would be better IMO.
     
  13. Feb 5, 2010
    garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

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    garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

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    Hmmmmm... I have a junk 3b sitting around and a set if halfway decent fenders from my 3a and two spare Lhead hoods. might need to try that.
     
  15. Feb 5, 2010
    Long&Low

    Long&Low Active Member

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    that does take some of the sting of a 3B away thought, kinda looks good on the front end .:)


     
  16. Feb 5, 2010
    JohnnyCommando

    JohnnyCommando Blue Tarp Station, proprietor

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    I prefer that look, too.

    Somewhere out there in Etherland there are photos of a 3B that received a cowl reduction and was dressed to look like an MB/GPW.
     
  17. Feb 7, 2010
    brandon533b

    brandon533b Member since 2007

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    so whos gonna do this to there B? i want to see more pics.:) i have thought about doing this also... just not to my current 3B.
     
  18. Feb 7, 2010
    avmechanic

    avmechanic Gearhead

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    If I would of gone with the 3B route for the body I would of done this for sure. I have already bought a M38 body kit for my CJ2A project so I won't be trying this mod. If I had seen this picture earlier I may have gone for it. I still like the idea. I am thinking of piecing together another flatty project with my left over parts collection and I could go a low 3B route with highline fenders to have large tires and low center of gravity. I like that you could cut apart the stock fenders and move them up. As you move the upper part up they will be moved out as well giving more fender coverage. You would just need to add some material to the back part to cover the amount of lift. The other option would be to go with a tube fender and make the whole fender from scratch. I am looking forward to seeing more pictures of this rig when fourwheeler does a full writeup. I am glad I posted the picture as it has created some good conversation. I hope to see somebody do it.
    Greg
     
  19. Feb 7, 2010
    bobracing

    bobracing web wheeler

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    Here is a CJ-2a that was turned into a CJ-3b.
    As you can see 4" was added to the cowl won't be hard to make a 2a or 3b into a "highfender" CJ-3c. 2 grills and little splicing should get you the grill you're looking for too.
    Seen this mod done before but can't find the pictures.

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    4" cowl mod
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    Hood mod
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    Last edited: Feb 7, 2010
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