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Help with Dist Cap

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by rkusa, Feb 6, 2007.

  1. Mar 8, 2007
    kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

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    im gonna hold to my guns on this i may be wrong but that looks like the factory harness that some dumba@# has been butcherin on think the wire in question goes to the big red wire out of the regulator and the smaller one goes to amp lite
     
  2. Mar 8, 2007
    kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

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    in other words the two wire plug in that goes in the side of the alt,cut that butt connector off,connect the red wire out of the side of alt to wire in question,the other wire in that configuration looks right should be connected to where it is just not with the red wire coming out of the plug
     
  3. Mar 8, 2007
    rkusa

    rkusa rkusa

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    Well, ok, but I have been reading like crazy, and that is a good and bad thing. I have read dozens of threads on this forum.
    Some say the ignition wire that is the big red wire you see in the ignition switch in the photo, should go to the 3rd terminal on the solinoid, in order to jump the 9 volts when the ignition switch is in the start mode.

    So that wire is the big red wire in the photo that looks a bit burned. Also, yes I read and your spot on that the red and white wire joined with the yellow lug should be seperated, and the whte should go to the amp bulb the red.....?

    So you are saying that the ignition switch should be wired into the alternator, and the alternator red wire term#2 should also go to the batt post on the alt......?

    By the way, Thanks , I realize this is confusing but I must ride....!
     
  4. Mar 8, 2007
    kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

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    i sent you a pm,call me,this is easy just cant explain to you over computer
     
  5. Mar 8, 2007
    kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

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    i talked with rkusa on the phone,one imporntant factor was left out,this jeep came with the delco alt with external regulator,for future refrance
     
  6. Mar 9, 2007
    rkusa

    rkusa rkusa

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    Thanks for the help, I will let you know what happens.
     
  7. Mar 10, 2007
    rkusa

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    Thanks to KW the wires now are all hooked back up....the motor turns over now, but.....no spark...plenty of gas in the carb. but to spark at the plugs. I got a new coil, but since it has the same ohms as the old one I didn't install it yet....could this be the problem.
    I ran a jumper wire from the points to the coil ground....and no sparks at the points with the cap off.....?
     
  8. Mar 10, 2007
    kaiser_willys

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    got power to the coil? are the points set right,have you replaced the condenser?
     
  9. Mar 10, 2007
    rkusa

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    Actually I have three sets of points and condensers here to play with.
    I was thinking that with the cap off, I should see some sparks at the points....but none.
    So,,,to check if there is power to the coil, do I just put the volt meter on the plus and minus posts of the coil while cranking....?
     
  10. Mar 10, 2007
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    You don't need to crank the engine to see if the coil is getting power, just take a meter and check the + side of the coil to see if its got 9-12v while grounding the - side of your meter to the frame or engine block.
     
  11. Mar 16, 2007
    rkusa

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    OK....well, I found that while reading all these threads, I should hook a wire from the third post on the solinoid to the + side of the coil....I did this...and it caused the new balast resistor to heat up big time while cranking.

    So I took it away. and replaced the coil....I also took off the New distributor cap and rotor, and put the old one back on.
    Now I have spark across the points, and the spark plug #1 wire sparks a plug. It still wont start, but since I hardly know what I'm doing , I did celebrate due to seeing any sparks at all.
    My spark plugs are all black.....a thin film of soot. I got new ones to install....and will do so and attempt the TDC stuff again before attempting another start. So is the black soot from running to lean....or from bad timing and not having all the fuel burned....? Or what...?

    Thanks to all for replying as in reading all your posts, I see that I'm sort of back there.
     
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  12. Mar 16, 2007
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    The black soot is from running to rich and not burning the fuel completely.

    Where in NC exactly are you, maybe someone is close and can drop by and help you.
    Please don't take this the wrong way but you seem to be severely struggling and need a little help getting this thing running or someone to just hang around and give moral support if nothing else.
     
  13. Mar 17, 2007
    rkusa

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    Well....LOL Thanks on the offer for help, ...KieserWillys almost made it here, but having this Jeep is sort of a hindrance to domestic tranquility at the moment.....LOL
    We live sort of deep in the forest on a goat path road, and a running 4x4 is
    a need more than a want. But, money is tight, and I have to deal with what I have.
    No complaint. Perhaps I should find a better vehicle than this, but I've owned Jeeps before, and although not real comfy.....I don't think there is a better vehicle for the job.
    I have a 1978 Chevy truck 4x4 that runs good, but cannot go on the road because of no floor....LOL , and a few other minor things like needing a new steering coloum. So you see the domestic tranquility issue.....
    So, the guy I got this Jeep from is a farm hand down the road, and three guys that also live there are "mechanics"......they say. They have a car lift, and lots of tools.
    The Jeep was giving them problems before I got it, and they said it would start and run, and drive, but then cut out, and have to be towed back to the garage.

    So, now I have it...... Normally, I would buy a Chilton and Haynes book, and read what I could and then attempt to figure it out.
    Those books do tell alot, but in the past, I have found that after reading them repeatedly they do leave lots of unanswered questions.
    So I looked on the INTERNET first, and found this sight.
    Well, what a gift from God.
    I have been reading this sight extensively, and in this short time know more than 100 Chilton books could have told me.
    Yes it's taking awhile, and I'm sure I'll stumble around some as I already have....LOL
    But I feel kind of real sure that this forum is the best tool I could have to get the thing running if it has the stuff to run. If not, it seems like there is good council also in fixing or changing that.

    So all in all., you people are helping me tons already, and, since my "out there" daily living situation does not lend it's self to being able to get help for anything.....LOL ,
    I sort of have to go this alone.
    Once I'm done....if that ever happens.....I plan to know the vehicle more than well, as I will be going places in it around here that I probably shouldn't......, and will need to get out of what ever I get into.
    So please just bear with me, as when I do learn I will add what I have learned to the next guy who needs it.

    Now ......the soot, from unburned fuel......I would think that has lot's to do with the timing being off. Correct....?
    It also seems like this car used to have an automatic choke, as there is one of those vacuum advance things connected up to the carburetor linkage, but no vacuum hose attached. There is also a manual choke.
     
  14. Mar 17, 2007
    sparky

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    I'm not aware of any of the Early CJ's that had an automatic choke. Does it have the assembly on the right side for one but no hot air tube? If so you likely have a Commando 2G.

    I don't understand what the vacuum advance has anything to do with a choke?
     
  15. Mar 17, 2007
    Patrick

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    Vacuum choke pull off? 2GV?
     
  16. Mar 17, 2007
    rkusa

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    The thing....I was thinking automatic choke.....what is it.
    Also, the hoses from the manifold ....there are two...they are plugged....is this correct....?
     
  17. Mar 17, 2007
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    dashpot
    it's busted, but no vac hoses go to it anyway
    plugged vac hoses won't hurt a thing till you get it running
     
  18. Mar 17, 2007
    rkusa

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    dashpot.....?
     
  19. Mar 17, 2007
    Ppilotmike

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    dashpot keeps the throttle from slaming closed and flooding the engine.
     
  20. Mar 17, 2007
    rkusa

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    Ok....Thanks, I'm reading about it. Mine is broke....and since it's not running yet....I'm getting ahead of myself.
    Tomorrow I will be putting in the new plugs and hopefully setting the timing...ta da ta da.

    Back when it did run for a bit, it would not idle.....would the busted dashpot stop it from idling....?
     
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