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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Broylz, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. Oct 7, 2017
    Broylz

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    Yeah. And that's why my original question was if I have the wrong windshield. It and it's hinges are black and the rest of the jeep is a white color...
     
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    Glenn

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    I don't see anything indicating wrong windshield.
     
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    Glenn

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    Was the top mounted on a Jeep when you bought it? Any pictures showing it mounted? Thing is it might not have been mounted correctly before, judging by the front being bent up.
     
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    Glenn

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    The Jeep in the link I posted has black hinges.
     
  5. Oct 7, 2017
    Broylz

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    I have some crappy pics of it mounted while in a garage and no good shots of it all together but the guy also met me half way so I didn not uninstall it either
     
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    Broylz

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    The one pic showing the passenger door mounted to the jeep doesn't seem to show anything attached to the windshield that could be a filler. Looks just like mine with the thick rubber pad showing at the hinge
     
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    Glenn

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    Glenn

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    Mine is a Kelly top and I have no idea about trim pieces for yours, but I would bet they should be something like I have.
     
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    Glenn

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    In this picture the windshield frame should be farther back and very close to touching the horizontal piece of the door jamb. It certainly looks like the piece on top of the windshield should be at the front of it, not on top.
     
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    Twin2

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    yep I was thinking same thing just like a kelly top .
     
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    Broylz

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    If I set the windshield behind the piece that folds over the windshield, the windshield is too far back and would have to trim those channels. They won't fit around the window
     
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    Broylz

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    [​IMG]

    This is the pic I got from him and no trim piece that I'm seeing
     
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    Glenn

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    If there was something it would be on the inside and might not show any sign of it from the outside.
     
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    Glenn

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    Does the windshield lean farther back than aligning with the hinge?
     
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    Keys5a

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    The Willys and Kaiser era Jeeps had black windshield frames and hinges from the factory. Your photo in post #28 may be telling. The welds look exceptionally crude at the bottom box section where it meets the hoop of the frame. The factory welds were usually much better (gas welded?), but I have a "new" Crown frame (the box says "Cobra King, made in Taiwan") that has welds that are nearly identical and crude.
    Its possible this is a more recent replacement frame that is ill-fitting, and therefore, the top won't fit properly.
    -Donny
     
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    Zoomer

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    I'm not familiar with your top, but the doors may not be meant to sit inside the recess around the door opening like you are showing, although they do appear to fit pretty good in your earlier pics. I have a Meyers top and the flat panels of my doors rest against the flat vertical body panels.

    Not the best picture, but may show how the Meyers doors fit.

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    This is how a Meyers top fits over and in front of the windshield frame and rests on the soft top channel. Yours could be totally different. Ignore the rubber fillers, the proper trim panels are not installed.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Glenn

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    The first picture you posted shows the windshield frame in very close alignment with the hinge, which is the way it should be. Maybe never perfect but they should be close. It also shows the doors reasonably close to fitting decently. Personally I think you need to get back to that point with the windshield and then figure out what it will take to make the top line up properly at the back, and mount securely and leak free at the front. It might take cutting, bending, welding, adding a piece or whatever but as mentioned the doors set the windshield angle. I just think the front of the top is askew just enough to make fitment tough to figure out.
     
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    Glenn

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    Another thought: Can you remove the apparent trim pieces on each side of the windshield? They might be interfering with the windshield being able to tilt back to a good spot.
     
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