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Ground Hawg's on my flattie?

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by Andy4802, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. Jun 12, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

    Hudson, Qc, Canada
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    i know i am already pushing my luck with stock axles and my 35" BFG's... but a local guy is selling some 35X14XR15 ground hawgs DIRT CHEAP. I know i'll need rims with a lot of backspacing, but aside from that, am I asking for trouble? Will they put a lot more stress on the axles than my BFG's? I've got 11" brakes all around now, so stopping power is not an issue, and i have spare axle shafts front and back in the back of the jeep at all times.

    I was thinking of throwing the hawgs on the flattie and keeping the BFG's for my upcoming lift on the TJ (my DD).

    thoughts?
     
  2. Jun 12, 2007
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    like all things Jeep
    how you drive in relation to the skinny pedal will tell the tale
     
  3. Jun 12, 2007
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    For me - on the trails here in Colorado - HUGE Breakage... I have simple rules for trouble free wheeling:
    D25/27 NGT 31"
    D30 NGT 33"
    D44 NGT 35"

    Like Jim says it's the driver and knowing thier style (I am a little heavy on the pedal for wheel spin) and I also think the trails you run have alot to do with it as well.
     
  4. Jun 12, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

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    i do almost zero rock crawling. Mostly muddy and grassy trails and i only hammer the throttle when im in lots of mud to clear the treads. probably why the axles are still alive i suppose. oh, and i've been running 35" BFG's for well over a year and a half now. will the extra width be an additional strain? or do you figure about the same as the BFGs?
     
  5. Jun 12, 2007
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Ground Hawgs are much better in mud than the MTs, which I'm sure we're all aware of. That could be a plus given you could be lighter on the pedal with those tires. Bottom line, better traction plus more width you'll definitely have to be more careful.
     
  6. Jun 12, 2007
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    I agree.
     
  7. Jun 12, 2007
    mpc

    mpc Member

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    Yes. Increased unsprung weight. How's your stock L-head power with the 12" wide tires? It's going to get worse. Seems like a lot to ask of those axles.
     
  8. Jun 12, 2007
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    for mud and grass, i say go for it. i know there is plenty of buggys in florida running that setup with larger tires. Things do break. but drive with that in mind and you will be ok
     
  9. Jun 12, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

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    LOL Stock L-head power? isn't that an oxymoron?
    it's ok for what it needs to do... top speed is about 45 MPH though and steep hills are a strain, but she always makes it R)
     
  10. Jun 12, 2007
    Sledgehammer

    Sledgehammer Sure, I'll try it

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    Ground Hawgs are cool, do it. Just watch the throttle like everyone said. Do it. Do it.
     
  11. Jun 15, 2007
    NoFlyZone

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    I wouldnt pay more than $25 a tire. You'd have a hard time selling them around here to anybody that has any experience with them.
     
  12. Jun 15, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

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    thats the first time i have heard anything bad about them... what dont you like about them?
     
  13. Jun 17, 2007
    Mike C

    Mike C Member

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    They stink for an on-road tire. Takes a ton of weight to balance and flat spot bad while sitting. Not good in the rain. Howl like a 100 car freight train, etc.

    For a mid psi off-road tire they are OK, just not as good as most of the newer tires.
     
  14. Jun 17, 2007
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    For what you will be doing with them they will be good. I tried to get a set off ebay for my jeep to use strictly for mudding in Forida :)
     
  15. Jun 18, 2007
    NoFlyZone

    NoFlyZone Member

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    For a tire that is especially for the mud it is mediocre at that. They are simply an adapted industrial tire. They are not specially designed for anything other than big cheap tire. As far as that goes I would rather have Gumbo Mudders for 35 a tire. Both were mounted on 79 f150 shortbed with f350 guts in the 35" size. They did keep there tread a lot longer than than the Mudders. When we moved to TSL's it was like a whole another truck.
     
  16. Jun 18, 2007
    NoFlyZone

    NoFlyZone Member

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    Man, nothing cleans mud out of the tread like a 460 and Super Swampers.
     
  17. Jun 18, 2007
    kevin-cj3a

    kevin-cj3a New Member

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    I will have disagree with a couple of you. I had Ground Hawgs on my cj7 with a v8 and they are an excellent tire for the mud. I would get about 25k miles on them but as they were a bias ply tire they would flat spot like all bias ply tires do. And yes they are loud but its not like your jeep is quiet going down the road anyways.
    I vote get them its your vehicle and they wont disappoint you for traction in the mud.
    Thats my 2cents
    Kevin
     
  18. Jun 18, 2007
    Huntman

    Huntman HIGH ROLLER

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    I know my father had them on his short bed chevy and they were an awsome tire in the mud. they pulled like crazy, but we mostly have clay around here. i like the look of them as well. go for it.
     
  19. Jun 19, 2007
    godevil

    godevil My Humor isnt appreciated

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    Any pic's of the Jeep (with girlfriend of course;) ) sportin the new Hawgs?
    Curious how the Jeep likes em, turning radius etc...
    Have you all but given up 4 high with 35's?
    Donnie
     
  20. Jun 19, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

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    i havent gotten them yet... although they are still available. Been spending lots on the new house (my first house:)) lately so the jeep has taken the backseat (for now). Sadly i only get out in it about once a week or so... between work, finishing my basement, setting up my shop in the garage, landscaping, and trips to home depot, i havent had much spare time or money.
    i know where the tires are though if i get the urge to splurge ;)
     
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