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gas gauge calibration

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by garage gnome, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. Oct 22, 2010
    garage gnome

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    I bought a universal sunpro gas gauge for the Jalopy which has a rear mounted 15 gal gas tank. When the gauge reads 3/4, the tank is empty. Is there anyway I can calibrate the gauge? I don't have 100% faith in the sending unit either. I have another sending unit that I could try hooking up to it and see what it does.
     
  2. Oct 22, 2010
    Walt Couch

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    M38.. Not knowing a whole bunch on this vehicle but was it 24V? Is the sender original? Did the sunpro come with any resistance values for the sender?
     
  3. Oct 23, 2010
    garage gnome

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    No, the tank and sender are from a CJ5. It just has an M38 body on a 46 2A chassis. Everything is 12V.
     
  4. Oct 23, 2010
    Diggerjeep

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    I carry half a yardstick to accurately measure my fuel. That an a 5 gallon Jerry can as a reserve tan,.
     
  5. Oct 23, 2010
    mb82

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    Does the sending unit have full range of motion? Do the resistances(ohms) of each unit match up?
     
  6. Oct 23, 2010
    Walt Couch

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    I don't have a sunpro sender to take the resistance readings from to compare with the Stewart Warner. However the Sunpro manufacturer states their gauges work only with their senders which is ordered separately.
     
  7. Oct 23, 2010
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  8. Oct 23, 2010
    garage gnome

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    Well, that's dumb. If it is a universal gauge, then shouldn't it work with all senders?

    Yes, it has full range of motion. I don't know how to check the ohm readings though.
     
  9. Oct 24, 2010
    sammy

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    Not necessarily. Universal means will fit just about anything, doesn't mean it has to work with everything.
     
  10. Oct 24, 2010
    Walt Couch

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    You state that the gauge reads 3/4 full when the tank is empty. So will the gauge read empty if the tank is full? If so then reversing the swing on the float arm may solve the problem. Getting full and accurate adjustment may be a problem tho.
     
  11. Oct 24, 2010
    garage gnome

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    When the tank is full, the needle is way past the full line.
     
  12. Oct 24, 2010
    Walt Couch

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    If you want to tinker with this, I would get a small variable resistor from like Radio Shack and put it in series with the sender wire. Cut the sender wire and connect the resister between the two wires. The resistor value (I am not sure of) from 0 to 100 ohms may have enough resistance to work. The wattage can be in the neighborhood of 1/4 watt. Not sure of price but should be relatively cheap.
     
  13. Oct 24, 2010
    timgr

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    As I recall, there are two main types of fuel gauges. The GM-type gauges expect a resistance from 0 to 90 ohms from the sending unit. The Ford/Stewart-Warner gauges expect 8-12 ohms to 73 ohms. If you use the Ford gauges with a GM sender, or vice versa, the gauge will move but it won't be accurate.

    The gauge you bought will indicate what resistance it expects from the sender. Use your meter and measure the range of the sender. Compare that to the specification for the gauge.

    If you look at the Summit web site, it lists the following types of gauges
    * 240 ohms empty, 33 ohms full
    * 0 ohms empty, 90 ohms full
    * 73 ohms empty, 10 ohms full
    * 0 ohms empty, 30 ohms full
    * Programmable
    * 16 ohms empty, 158 ohms full
    * 10 ohms empty, 180 ohms full
    * 0 to 280 ohms adjustable
    * 65 ohms empty, 10 ohms full

    None of these will be accurate with the wrong sender.

    Your meter is your friend. Measure the range of the sender and buy a gauge to match. Or buy a sender to match the gauge.
     
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  14. Oct 25, 2010
    garage gnome

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    Right now the tank is pretty close to full. I'll see what the resistance is later on today.
     
  15. Oct 25, 2010
    willysworker

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    Sounds like the same problem I had, Postal Jeep tank & sender with Willys replacement gauge were a mix and different OHMS. Matched a gauge to the 8-73 ohm sender and all is well. Vernco does have a good report on this as well.
     
  16. Oct 25, 2010
    timgr

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    Measure the resistance from the tank sender to ground. Siphon the tank dry (put the gas in another car, or in cans if you have enough). Measure it again. Then fill it up and check your first measurement.
     
  17. Oct 25, 2010
    garage gnome

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    Or drive it until it runs out. :D
     
  18. Oct 25, 2010
    garage gnome

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    I kinda like that idea, Is there more resistance when the sender reads full or empty? IIRC, the resister on the sender was wider at the full position and narrower at the empty position. I guess I'll play around with my other sender. Thinking out loud.
     
  19. Oct 25, 2010
    Walt Couch

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    A simple answer to that question. If grounding the sender wire (zero resistance) makes the gauge go full scale then adding resistance brings it down, right.
     
  20. Oct 25, 2010
    garage gnome

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    Correct. I checked my spare sender. So, I'm going to try adding a variable resister to the circuit like you suggested earlier.
     
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