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Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by Howard Eisenhauer, Jun 30, 2015.

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  1. Aug 10, 2015
    jeepermc

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    I like the guy that says " I've got a Vette".....

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    "A Chevette".....
     
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  2. Aug 10, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    You pull it up through the floor or use the hoist to drop it down?

    H.
     
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  3. Aug 10, 2015
    47v6

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    use the threaded shift tower bolt holes to screw in some long bolts to affix a chain and pull it up.
     
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  4. Aug 11, 2015
    Posimoto

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    I actually use the hoist to drop the tranny/t-case. I run a chain around the tranny and to the hook on the chainhoist, then hook a ratchet strap from the chain to the rear of the tranny or t-case so I can set the angle of the input shaft when I put it back in. I was trying to find some pics of the setup but my photobucket account is messed up at the moment.
     
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  5. Aug 11, 2015
    mortten

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    Technically the 180 Turbo would be the Corsa engine as it's the only thing it came in. The 140 4 carb came standard in the Corsa but was available in the Monza and 500 also.
     
    mortten, Aug 11, 2015
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  6. Jan 27, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Rod bearings & journals are officially toast, less than 300 miles.

    Haven't checked the mains yet.

    Don't want to thing about the cam right now (again)
     
    Howard Eisenhauer, Jan 27, 2019
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  7. Jan 27, 2019
    Glenn

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    Ouch! Sorry to hear that. Any initial thought on what happened?
     
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  8. Jan 27, 2019
    PeteL

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    If it was a "professional" rebuild, do you have a warranty claim?
     
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  9. Jan 27, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    Doesn't this go back to 2015?
     
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  10. Jan 27, 2019
    Keys5a

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    Crank able to be turned to another undersize? Didn't you have a spare crank squirreled away too?
    When you pull the rod caps, do you have to kind of pry the bearing out, or does it just fall out, loose?
    If the bearings are still snug in the rod and cap ends, chances are your big ends are still good. If the bearings are loose and just fall out, that's usually a good indication of needing the big ends resized.
    -Donny
     
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  11. Jan 27, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I know the mains are at minimums, not sure about the rod journals. I haven't had a good look at the whole thing, just dropped the caps but I can feel grooves in the journals, The # 3 looks like there was sand going through it.

    I do have a spare crank, I'll have to get it mike'd to se what sort of shape it's in.

    Mickey- FWIW I was investigating why I have a knocking sound under load and a certain rpm range. My oil pressure has dropped from 60 when I put it all back together to 10, as the rpm comes up it goes up to 30 but goosing the throttle there's a lag in the pressure coming up & between 13 to 20 psi I get the knocking, see post 7 in your noise thread.



    Can anyone tell me the clearance spec for the caps/bearings to the side of the rod journals? I've got between .010 - .019" of space there, there's an appreciable amount of back & forth movement of the rods on the crank.
     
    Howard Eisenhauer, Jan 27, 2019
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  12. Jan 28, 2019
    73 cj5

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    Crankshaft end play
    .004” to .006”

    Connecting rod end play
    .004” to .010”
     
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  13. Jan 28, 2019
    Tomellen

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    Sorry to hear that. What a heart breaker. SCARES THE FUDGE OUT OF ME. Did my own rebuild, but only got to break in cam.
     
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  14. Feb 8, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    OK, got he spare crank checked out- mains are 2.312 on all 3, rods are 1.900/1.902.

    I see that .040 under size bearings are available (actually down to .060) for the rods but the FSM only recommends down to .030".

    Opinions please- is taking the rod journals down further ok or is it going to bite me on the Eh Are Ess Eee??
     
    Howard Eisenhauer, Feb 8, 2019
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  15. Feb 8, 2019
    73 cj5

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    Removing metal past .030 could lead to crankshaft breakage. My rod journals are at .040 iirc. Fwiw if you put a sbc 400 crank in a 305/350 you have to take .200 off the mains.
     
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  16. Feb 8, 2019
    tarry99

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    Is this your 134? If so and you drive it respectively it should last OK..........I haven't read all of what happened other than Oil and lubrication seems to be at odds........I would sure want to correct that before moving forward......
     
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  17. Feb 9, 2019
    Keys5a

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    If you opt to take the rods out to .050 or .060, have the shop leave a large radius at the sides of the journal. You may have to chamfer the edges of the bearings, but the radius keeps some strength in the crank. Though not optimal, you will likely be OK.
    -Donny
     
    Keys5a, Feb 9, 2019
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  18. Feb 9, 2019
    txtoller

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    Correct, but only after 1966 as the Corsa was only around for 65 and 66.

    My 65 with the 140 motor...
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  19. Feb 9, 2019
    mortten

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    That is a fact
     
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  20. Feb 9, 2019
    Keys5a

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    I've got a '65 Corsa convertible in the same red (black top and interior), though unrestored (actually original paint). It came with a 140 in it, but I have the correct '65 180 engine for it. It also has quick steering and a tele-column. I have A/C dash panels, and front A/C box, but not sure I'll install that.
    These are some under-appreciated cars!
    -Donny
     
    Keys5a, Feb 9, 2019
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