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Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by Howard Eisenhauer, Jun 30, 2015.

  1. Jul 31, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Super Moderator Staff Member Sponsor

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    Thats theory #1.

    Theory #2 is that I absently minded left a 3' long steel bar in there when I put it back together. :rofl:
     
  2. Jul 31, 2015
    Glenn

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    Theory #1 seems plausible, not so sure about #2. ;)
     
  3. Jul 31, 2015
    Alan28

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    It is good to stop and get some fresh air; I was waiting for photos of Nova Scotia with a Jeep. No hurry.
    What is important is to be in good health, same for the family, and a correct job.

    I waited a long time (in years) before having my Jeep, then having it in good condition.
    Now sometimes I imagine to sell it, because not young enough but it can wait a little bit.

    I would suggest to save some money and find a good mechanic to avoid thinking too much.

    There is no magic in this affair, just time to spend and maybe it is better that it would not be yours.
    Just keep control.
     
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    Alan28

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    Maybe I was not clear enough.

    In 1993 I was 46, I bought a new Nissan Prairie, 7 seats, my wife used it to bring the children to school.
    2 weeks ago, this Nissan was climbing on a truck to be sold by parts. I got 100€ in cash.
    I kept this car carefully, have all repaired, was like new. But some problems with the gearbox, I decided : no more expenses.
    Good bye, and good luck.
    This car was 22 years of my life, when I bought it I was 'young' and with a very nice life.

    And maybe tomorrow my sons will bring me in an asyleum for old people and I'll understnad that it will be my future...

    My mother during 3 months on her bed in the hospital repeated 'when do I come back home?' and the doctors during 3 months were telling me 'say good bye to her because tomorrow... it lasted 3 months....

    So Tonka can survive, question of money. Choices to do. Life is going on, enjoy it.
     
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    PeteL

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    "Life is going on, enjoy it."

    Amen, Brother.
     
  6. Aug 9, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Had some time today to do some investigating-


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    Inside-

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    Found this ( as well asd a lot of grindings) after fishing around with a magnet-

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    It appears to be the remains of a 5/16" bolt, length (original) indeterminate. Nobody to blame but me for this one. :(

    Apparently it dropped into the case when I wasn't looking & just rolled around in there for a while, when I made a short stop the bolt rolled forward & got jammed up in between the front gear of the countershaft & the oil collector.

    The gears appear fine, no broken teeth or even signs of chipping :shock: I'll replace the needle bearing just on spec but it looks like all I'll need is the replacement case & a collector.

    H.
     
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    Glenn

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    Well, glad you found out what the problem was rather than still wondering. Glad no further damage. :)
     
  8. Aug 9, 2015
    timgr

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    Sorry to hear that, Howard. But a T-90 case should be easy to source. I'd expect there exists many more good cases with worn-out or shattered gears, than vice versa.
     
  9. Aug 9, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Yes I've got one sourced locally already.

    It's all over but the jacking up of the jeep, the dissassembly while lying on my back on a cold floor, dropping the tranny/xfer/cross member on some part of my anatomy, spurting blood, trip to emergency, dragging the tranny/xfer/crossmember out from underneath, more dissassembly, assembly, chasing needle bearings, more assembly, dragging the tranny/xferr/cross member back underneath, cursing, jacking the tranny/xfer/crossmemebr up into place while lying on my back on a cold floor, swearing, dropping bolts, more swearing, more reassembly .

    I'm sure I've missed a step here somewheres.

    H.
     
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    Glenn

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    Seems like you have it covered pretty well. I think you should leave out the part about hurting yourself entirely however, you'll save time and money. ;)
     
  11. Aug 9, 2015
    Cap-n-Cray

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    Did you run a magnet through the transmission oil (what was left) and across to inside of the case?

    How many miles on that bolt?
     
  12. Aug 9, 2015
    Glenn

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    Some of the modern bolts just don't last no time. Look how quick that one failed. ;)
     
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    Posimoto

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    Well said, Alan.

    Howard, I feel your pain. I don't know if you have a full cage in your Jeep, but if you do try using a chain hoist hung from the front hoop to pull and re-install the t-case/tranny. It works quite well and no muscle required. I use a cheapo hoist from Harbor Freight.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Yup.

    From when the noise happened about 1 1/2 miles. :rofl:

    H.
     
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    47v6

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    Thats brilliant. I now use an engine hoist.

    I have a free t-90 case if you pay for shipping and maybe a good oil slinger in it.
     
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    Cap-n-Cray

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    So the bolt was in there for a 1 1/2 miles total. The failure was pretty fast. The bolt must have ground up pretty fast. I am surprised you didn't hear more nose from the start.

    I once took my Corvair with a brand new motor from Chevy for a test drive. It was a spyder engine with four one barrels. Two carbs were either on of off. Of course I didn't have air cleaners and I had a small container of stainless steel nuts and bolts on the car's roof. One bolt made its way through the rear deck vents into one of the carbs, pass the valve, and into the cylinder. One cylinder and piston later... Boy that sucked...
     
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    Glenn

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    Wow, talk about fate.
     
  18. Aug 10, 2015
    Alan28

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    The same for me : I don't like to crawl under the Jeep and work.

    I am too old for this. There are pro shops for this work, I don't have enough good tools to work on heavy parts.

    Question of money.... but you could find a nice shop, make a deal with the owner and participate to check if they are not sure, or just control if more problems.

    Just save the money for this because there are always surprises.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    You pull it up through the floor or use the hoist to drop it down?

    H.
     
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    47v6

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    use the threaded shift tower bolt holes to screw in some long bolts to affix a chain and pull it up.
     

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