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Floor Brake Pedal Contacts Bell Housing And Mc

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by Lee Bennett, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. Mar 3, 2019
    Lee Bennett

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    New here but what a great forum. Love the smarts. My 70 CJ5 V6 with dual mc is making me mad. New brake pedal was contacting the bell housing. Bent it slightly away from bell housing. Now it rubs side of dual mc. Do I need to custom fit the new pedal?
     
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    47v6

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    Welcome!

    Some pictures will make it a lot easier for us to understand your problem.
     
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    I believe this has been addressed here in the past. I seem to remember the late V6 CJs having a different brake pedal arm with a slightly different bend. You say this is a new arm? Can you compare it, side by side, with the original?
    I know some members here have had worn pedal arms re-bushed.
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    termin8ed

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    I seem to remember mine had tight clearance issues too. Is there any slop in the pivot bushing at the frame rail? Seem to remember also there being a pedal for the v6 and another for the fhead. Not much difference, but enough to cause issues like you stated
     
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    Lee Bennett

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    Bought CJ in parts. No pedal at all. Bought one from KW. Shaft has no wear/slop. New pedal is straight - no bends. I bent it slightly to clear bell. Now contacts mc. I've seen where others have bent at bell, but nothing about more bends for dual mc. All spacers and mounts are good. Pedal hole in floor lines up with pedal. Very cold out today. Will get pics soon.
     
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    Mcruff

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    That’s your problem, the v6 arm is not straight it has a double bend in it.
     
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    Lee Bennett

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    Does anyone know who sells the double bend one? Thanks guys
     
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    Might put an WTB ad in the Classified section of the forum...

    Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Classifieds
     
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    homersdog

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    I don't think there are any reproduction pedals for the V6. You might email kaiser-Willys to see if they can get a line on a used one, or try peter debellas jeep parts, or Walcks.

    This is the best picture I have of mine, it doesn't really show the entire pedal arm, but you get the idea. Maybe you can bend the one you have.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Welcome to the forum. How far from Sedalia are you?
     
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    mike starck

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    Had the same problem. Bent the pedal and ground a little material away from pedal and bell housing where they had interference . Made some guides from UHMW to fit in holes on floor to limit sideways travelof pedal shaft.So far so good. One time with brake pedal hitting bell housing on sudden stop was enough for me. No more trouble since.
     
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    Lee Bennett

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    Thanks from Moberly
     
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    Mcruff

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    C22BD39B-E058-4F54-8EF0-9B9AE79AF80E.jpeg 55A27830-ACD1-49E0-87E8-7DDB3F417749.jpeg Here is what a v6 pedal looks like, these belong to a board member. I rebushed the 1” hole to prevent wobble. The 1st picture is the cast part number. The 2nd shows the factory shape.
     
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    Lee Bennett

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    That looks like what I need. Did he / she say where they got it?
     
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    Mcruff

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    These belong to member “Windyhill” Seth is his name.
     
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    Lee Bennett

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    Thanks. I'll look for him?
     
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    Rick Whitson

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    Welcome from Michigan, you are in the right place, these guys know everything about these Jeeps, Good Luck
     
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    Vanguard

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    I believe KW resells Herm's kit as their own. You might try reaching out to Herm.
     
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    Get out the torch, place in vise, trial and error, have fun!
     
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    Here's a shot showing how the V6 brake lever jogs to the left to clear bellhousing, yet still clear MC.
    20190304_095127-864x864.jpg
     
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